Which language should I learn first, classical Chinese or Tibetan?

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Which language should I learn first, classical Chinese or Tibetan?

Post by ryan_oliveira » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:57 pm

Which language should I learn first, classical Chinese or Tibetan?

I study both Tibetan Buddhism and East Asian Buddhism.

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Re: Which language should I learn first, classical Chinese or Tibetan?

Post by PadmaVonSamba » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:49 pm

ryan_oliveira wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:57 pm
Which language should I learn first, classical Chinese or Tibetan?
I study both Tibetan Buddhism and East Asian Buddhism.
I study both as well, plus conversational Chinese.
It depends on what your purpose is.
You could also consider Sanskrit.
Language is really about the interpretation of concepts.
There are websites where you can find Chinese/Tibetan buddhist glossaries
or you might just want to compose your own list of terms for your own use.
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Post by rory » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:52 pm

If you want to study Shingon, then first you need to study Japanese or classical Chinese and then modern Japanese. It's an absolute necessity.
I hope this helps.
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Re: Which language should I learn first, classical Chinese or Tibetan?

Post by Caoimhghín » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:12 am

ryan_oliveira wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:57 pm
Which language should I learn first, classical Chinese or Tibetan?

I study both Tibetan Buddhism and East Asian Buddhism.
If you do both, the common denominator is Sanskrit and various regional Prākrits (Gāndhārī, Pāḷi, etc). Otherwise, you have to choose between the two.

Or you can, in the meantime, choose translations by qualified individuals (and that doesn't just mean having a fancy degree and being a New York Times bestseller! :spy: ).
歸命本覺心法身常住妙法心蓮臺本來莊嚴三身徳三十七尊住心
城遠離因果法然具普門塵數諸三昧無邊徳海本圓滿還我頂禮心諸佛

In reverence for the root gnosis of the heart, the dharmakāya,
for the ever present good law of the heart, the lotus terrace,
for the inborn adornment of the trikāya, the thirty-seven sages dwelling in the heart,
for that which is removed from seed and fruit, the upright key to the universal gate,
for all boundless concentrations, the sea of virtue, the root perfection,
I prostrate, bowing to the hearts of all Buddhas.

胎藏金剛菩提心義略問答鈔, Treatise on the teaching of the gnostic heart of the womb and the diamond, T2397.1.470c5-8

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Re: Which language should I learn first, classical Chinese or Tibetan?

Post by SilenceMonkey » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:18 am

I went to Taiwan for three years, learning colloquial Chinese in my first two and classical in my third. During that third year, I stayed at the liberal arts college at Dharma Drum Mountain and learned a lot about Chinese Buddhism in Chinese. If that’s something you’re interested in, I recommend it. It’s a beautiful and serene environment and the Ch’an Dharma is deep and alive there. (Helps to know spoken Chinese first 😂)

Now I’m in Dharamsala, learning Tibetan. Been here for a year and a half.

I think these two places are good options for learning language deeply and cheaply, and in a Buddhist environment.

Dharma Drum Mountain’s university is renowned for Buddhist languages. People can also learn Sanskrit, Japanese, Pali and classical Tibetan there.

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