HAM and A-shad

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HAM and A-shad

Post by Jeff H » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:36 pm

I'm trying to clarify two references for visualizations.
First the letter HAM: Someone at Tsegyalgar East said it looks like this: ཧྃ, but I found an old posting by Greg where he said it looks like this: ཧཱྃ. Which is correct?

Second is an "A-shad" (or A-shay?): It is described as, "the final part of the Tibetan letter A, shaped like a triangle. The triangle, that represents fire, should be visualized pointing upward." I can't find a Unicode character or a symbol on the Tibetan keyboard that looks like that, but I'm guessing it's like this:

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Re: HAM and A-shad

Post by Malcolm » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:04 pm

Jeff H wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:36 pm
I'm trying to clarify two references for visualizations.
First the letter HAM: Someone at Tsegyalgar East said it looks like this: ཧྃ, but I found an old posting by Greg where he said it looks like this: ཧཱྃ. Which is correct?

Second is an "A-shad" (or A-shay?): It is described as, "the final part of the Tibetan letter A, shaped like a triangle. The triangle, that represents fire, should be visualized pointing upward." I can't find a Unicode character or a symbol on the Tibetan keyboard that looks like that, but I'm guessing it's like this:


A shad .png
(Edit: Had some trouble uploading the image attachment.)
The first one.

Just visualize a narrow triangle, pointing up.
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Re: HAM and A-shad

Post by Jeff H » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:05 pm

Thanks.
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Re: HAM and A-shad

Post by conebeckham » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:52 pm

mmmmmm....

Depending on tradition, these can differ, but most commonly "Ham" is upside down,
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དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: HAM and A-shad

Post by conebeckham » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:53 pm

..and A Shay is like this but without a swirl sometimes....
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དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: HAM and A-shad

Post by Grigoris » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:14 pm

Ham as opposed to Hām.

Exactly how old was that post of mine? :)

2011!
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Re: HAM and A-shad

Post by Jeff H » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:42 am

Grigoris wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:14 pm
Ham as opposed to Hām.

Exactly how old was that post of mine? :)

2011!
Yeah. It was near the top when I did a general google search on "Tibetan letter HAM". :tongue:
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Re: HAM and A-shad

Post by Jeff H » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:05 am

conebeckham wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:52 pm
mmmmmm....

Depending on tradition, these can differ, but most commonly "Ham" is upside down,
Whew!! This may be getting too deep for me. :o
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