Dark retreats

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Dark retreats

Postby nameless » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:23 pm

http://dzogchen-retreats.com/ It will be launched after Tibetan New Year.
The prices will be as low as possible depending on service at the dark retreat. Location Scandinavian countries.
I would expect that all places will be very remote and accessible only by boat.
The idea is that any one who wants to do dark retreats for 49 days are able to do so.

I will update the web site within 4 weeks and those who have interest find there the details

Cheers

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Re: Dark retreats

Postby kalden yungdrung » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:48 pm

nameless wrote:http://dzogchen-retreats.com/ It will be launched after Tibetan New Year.
The prices will be as low as possible depending on service at the dark retreat. Location Scandinavian countries.
I would expect that all places will be very remote and accessible only by boat.
The idea is that any one who wants to do dark retreats for 49 days are able to do so.

I will update the web site within 4 weeks and those who have interest find there the details

Cheers



Tashi delek N,

I have so the feeling we know each other.....

That sounds great !

Your link is not working / functioning, therefore some questions.

- Where is it situated , Finland, Sweden or Norway ?
- What are the conditions to get inside?
- How does it look like, the rooms ? I guess there are many mosquitoes buzzing around, especially in Finland.
Heating is also a serious thing as well the volunteers who will serve the retreat.
- Can people get in there for free ? I mean is there a fund for the not so wealthy Dzogchenpas?
- Is there a vegetarian kitchen possible ?
- Can one interrupt the retreat and start again for the same price ?
- Is there a Dzogchen Master present ?

If there is something i can do , for help, let me know.
I am from Holland and within short in the Scandinavian countries.

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Re: Dark retreats

Postby Ayu » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:54 pm

The site is under construction. It will be working, when they've finished it.
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Re: Dark retreats

Postby Coëmgenu » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:54 pm

Out of curiosity, what is "dark" about a dark retreat? Are there light retreats?
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Re: Dark retreats

Postby kalden yungdrung » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:07 pm

Coëmgenu wrote:Out of curiosity, what is "dark" about a dark retreat? Are there light retreats?



Tashi delek C,

Well dark in dark retreat is just there there is no light in the room.

I can elucidate this with an example.

I have met an American man in 2009 in Germany, whose brother was imprisoned in Alcatraz.
Sometimes these boyz were punished and the punishment was to be locked up in the basement were there was no light at all.
But i have heard from this man that his brother did not care at all to be there for 3 weeks or more.
His brother saw there in the dark nice things and he could not give an explanation about that experience.

Light retreats are also there, then one looks beside a source of light like the sun or a candle.

Both are methods in Dzogchen practice when i may say this here of course...... :shock:

Hope this helps

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IF HE DOES NOT APPLY HIS KNOWLEDGE
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Re: Dark retreats

Postby nameless » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:11 pm

Hello

I will continue the project as soon as possible. I will just provide the dark retreat (inspected) places->caves, nothing else.
So there will be no costs if one can do everything one self. All places are in North Norway and North Sweden.

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Re: Dark retreats

Postby smcj » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:49 pm

A white retreat is just the normal lighting.

A yellow retreat is where you have normal lighting between meditation sessions but you do your practices in the dark. It helps with the visualizations.

A dark retreat is where you are in total darkness 24/7. Food is brought to you but you do not see or interact with the cook. Samye Ling in Scotland has a facility but it costs a good bit. It is also sound proof. Usually people there do Bardo practices there for 49 days. Or at least they try to do that. Usually after a handful of days they can't stand it and leave.

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Re: Dark retreats

Postby Grigoris » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:07 pm

nameless wrote:http://dzogchen-retreats.com/ It will be launched after Tibetan New Year.
The prices will be as low as possible depending on service at the dark retreat. Location Scandinavian countries.
I would expect that all places will be very remote and accessible only by boat.
The idea is that any one who wants to do dark retreats for 49 days are able to do so.

I will update the web site within 4 weeks and those who have interest find there the details

Cheers
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