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Chulen

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:11 am
by Virgo
http://www.siddhienergetics.com/products/chulen

I know these pills are connected with specific practices. Can people take these pills for health/energy reasons alone, without doing them in conjunction with any specific practice or initiation?

Kavin

Re: Chulen

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:26 am
by Malcolm
Virgo wrote:http://www.siddhienergetics.com/products/chulen

I know these pills are connected with specific practices. Can people take these pills for health/energy reasons alone, without doing them in conjunction with any specific practice or initiation?

Kavin

You can, but that is missing the point, a bit.

Re: Chulen

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:47 pm
by alwayson
Can a nonpractitioner take these pills?

If so, what are the highest quality chulen pills on the market?

Re: Chulen

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:26 pm
by Malcolm
alwayson wrote:Can a nonpractitioner take these pills?

If so, what are the highest quality chulen pills on the market?
If you are looking for mundane rasāyana, then taking Chavyanaprasha regularly is your best bet.

N

Re: Chulen

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:06 pm
by Virgo
Namdrol wrote:
alwayson wrote:Can a nonpractitioner take these pills?

If so, what are the highest quality chulen pills on the market?
If you are looking for mundane rasāyana, then taking Chavyanaprasha regularly is your best bet.

N
Thank you very much.

Kevin

Re: Chulen

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:20 pm
by Epistemes
Could this replace a daily multivitamin?

Re: Chulen

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:47 am
by Malcolm
Epistemes wrote:Could this replace a daily multivitamin?
Definitely.

Re: Chulen

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:31 am
by rai
is the idea of rasāyana that we are eating more of things like chulen or Chavyanaprasha and less normal food?

Re: Chulen

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:06 pm
by Malcolm
rai wrote:is the idea of rasāyana that we are eating more of things like chulen or Chavyanaprasha and less normal food?

The Ayruvedic/Tibetan medical idea of rasayāna is that one does a week long cleanse; then one relies on a very pure diet combined with a rasayāna preparation like Chavayanaprash.

There is also a more "religious" idea of chulen, where one, having done a similar cleanse, relies on a practice such as White Tara, Amitayus, or Mandarava combined with special chulen pills.

Finally, there are yogic chulens that depend mainly on prāṇāyama exercises.

One can consider these outer, inner and secret rasāyanas. The use of these depends on one's health and needs.

N

Re: Chulen

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:43 am
by Epistemes
Namdrol wrote:
If you are looking for mundane rasāyana, then taking Chavyanaprasha regularly is your best bet.
Can Chyavanprash be taken alongside Vimala?

Re: Chulen

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:14 pm
by Malcolm
Epistemes wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
If you are looking for mundane rasāyana, then taking Chavyanaprasha regularly is your best bet.
Can Chyavanprash be taken alongside Vimala?

yes

Re: Chulen

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:40 pm
by AilurusFulgens
Namdrol wrote:
rai wrote:is the idea of rasāyana that we are eating more of things like chulen or Chavyanaprasha and less normal food?

The Ayruvedic/Tibetan medical idea of rasayāna is that one does a week long cleanse; then one relies on a very pure diet combined with a rasayāna preparation like Chavayanaprash.

There is also a more "religious" idea of chulen, where one, having done a similar cleanse, relies on a practice such as White Tara, Amitayus, or Mandarava combined with special chulen pills.

Finally, there are yogic chulens that depend mainly on prāṇāyama exercises.

One can consider these outer, inner and secret rasāyanas. The use of these depends on one's health and needs.

N
Namdrol, do there exist Tibetan texts, which would deal exclusively with Chulen?

In what way does the "religious" chulen differ from a yogic one? And how does a medical one differ from those two just mentioned?

Are the differences just in the substances employed or are there also some other factors at play?

A. Fulgens

Re: Chulen

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:43 pm
by Malcolm
AilurusFulgens wrote:
Namdrol, do there exist Tibetan texts, which would deal exclusively with Chulen?

In what way does the "religious" chulen differ from a yogic one? And how does a medical one differ from those two just mentioned?

Are the differences just in the substances employed or are there also some other factors at play?

A. Fulgens
As for question one:

Yes, many.

Long life practice combined with using blessed pills, without the benefit of the medical approach, is a kind of religious chulen.

Yogic chulen means working with prāṇāyāma.

Re: Chulen

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:17 pm
by AilurusFulgens
Namdrol wrote:
AilurusFulgens wrote:
Namdrol, do there exist Tibetan texts, which would deal exclusively with Chulen?

In what way does the "religious" chulen differ from a yogic one? And how does a medical one differ from those two just mentioned?

Are the differences just in the substances employed or are there also some other factors at play?

A. Fulgens
As for question one:

Yes, many.


Long life practice combined with using blessed pills, without the benefit of the medical approach, is a kind of religious chulen.

Yogic chulen means working with prāṇāyāma.
Could you please quote a few of these texts - I mean the titles? Are any of them translated in any Western language? Have also any scholarly studies or Ph.D. dissertations been done on these texts?

I know that Juergen Aschoff has written a book on one of the aspects of Chulen.

A. Fulgens