Dzochenpa Census

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Re: Dzochenpa Census

Postby Grigoris » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:23 pm

Peace!!!
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Re: Dzochenpa Census

Postby muni » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:18 pm

Yudron wrote:I

There has never been a census done of people who practice Dzogchen, and there probably could not be one done accurately, because for a lot of people it is a secret practice. Therefore, we don't know how many dzogchen practitioners there are on the planet, on the internet, or on this forum, and who their teachers are.

I do know that most of my vajra sisters and brothers would not be interested in talking about dharma on-line, and among the subset who would, most are not interested in being in an atmosphere like Dharmawheel and it's predecessors--a debate-like atmosphere with mostly brainy men participating. I'm not saying that is bad or good.

However, based on my friendship network, Asian and American primarily, I really doubt that there are more Dzogchen practitioners that study under Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche. More than most teachers, probably, but not more than all teachers, or all teachers put together.




Patrul Rinpoche wasnt' found in revealing teachings to everyone like on the open market. Since the dzogchen can be very easy misunderstood and lead to even more selfishness and heedless behaviour.
Namkhay Norbu Rinpoche La like all manifestations is selfless compassionate action, Bodhichitta. Possible now there is internet method, still the warning for misunderstanding remains.
Rest in natural great peace this exhausted mind,
Beaten helplessly by karma and neurotic thoughts
Like the relentless fury of the pounding waves
In the infinite ocean of samsara.
Rest in natural great peace.
~Nyoshul Khenpo Rinpoche

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Re: Dzochenpa Census

Postby Sherlock » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:11 pm

Josef wrote:
Yudron wrote: Does it have the whole root tantra in it?


Yes, at least what has been published so far.

I just ordered the three available volumes from Jim, but it looks like from the site that it's just chapters 1-40 for the three volumes and only the part commented upon is included in each volume. I suppose I should just wait though.

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Re: Dzochenpa Census

Postby Pero » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:30 pm

Sherlock wrote:
Josef wrote:
Yudron wrote: Does it have the whole root tantra in it?


Yes, at least what has been published so far.

I just ordered the three available volumes from Jim, but it looks like from the site that it's just chapters 1-40 for the three volumes and only the part commented upon is included in each volume. I suppose I should just wait though.

No, that's correct. But the whole root tantra will be translated within 5 volumes. And the complete tantra by itself will be in the 7th volume.
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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