treehuggingoctopus wrote:It's not quite a 'serves them right!' comment yet, at least not explicitly. But it's damn close to being one.
Unless Thrasymachus states his support for violence against the aforementioned minorities, you need not equate his words to being "damn close" to a "serves them right!" comment.
Oh come on. In a thread about a Buddhist society bashing its Muslim minority, a guy pops in just to villify Islam - how is one supposed to construe it?
The whole history argument (i.e., Islam-is-the-ultimate-horror-as-the-history-so-clearly-evinces) could be used to support a critique of any religious institution with sufficiently long history, and happens to neatly parallel the Chinese goverments' villification of Tibetan culture as a reactionary and intrinsically oppressive artefact from the past. There are some significant differences, of course, and curiously one of them is that the Maoists and their current heirs might appear to the naive to know slightly better and attack (yes, only in theory, goes without saying) an ideology they deem pernicious and not the people involved in it. Western Islamophobes don't even pretend to make such a distinction - it's Muslims they fear, every Muslim obviously being a convinced and unrepenant Islamofascist.
I've alreay said it, and will say it again: most of Westerners interested in the issue, and certainly most posters at DW, fail to understand what being a Muslim means to most Muslims. They fail to see that Islam, just like every religion, is an ethnic identity first, an ideology second - that most Muslims don't know pretty much anything about the creed, many just parrot the words their parents told them without any understanding, some construe the creed fairly personally, some don't know how or why to construe it at all and many don't really care either way, turning devout only on their deathbed. A story as old as humanity.
Our cultural failure to understand that the actual, real-life Muslim identity is just like the Christian or the Buddhist one - an umbrella which may shade pretty much anything but usually hides pretty much nothing - is absolutely terrifying, and speaks volumes about our xenophobia: after all, most of us don't make that mistake when they see our Christian neighbours.
I find it also still quite shocking that we let ourselves so easily be manipulated. I mean, with recent developments in Egypt and Syria, the anti-Islam propaganda should be really easy to see through. The American government is busy toppling the tyrants who, incidentally, represented the liberal and secular wing of Islam (and whom the US wholeheartedly supported a few years ago) - paving thus the way for the likes of Muslim Brotherhood. The future could hardly be clearer.
. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .