Why label?

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Why label?

Post by Music » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:48 pm

Just a quick question. Must we label everything we experience?

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Re: Why label?

Post by DGA » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:50 pm

No.

It can be useful to do so under some circumstances (drink the water, not the vinegar). But you don't need the label "water" to benefit from a cool drink on a hot day.

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Re: Why label?

Post by cesar » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:52 pm

Jikan wrote:No.

It can be useful to do so under some circumstances (drink the water, not the vinegar). But you don't need the label "water" to benefit from a cool drink on a hot day.
well put. :)

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Re: Why label?

Post by Music » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:01 pm

I meant labeling while meditating, as in vipasana.

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Re: Why label?

Post by ClearblueSky » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:40 pm

Certainly not, in fact a large aspect of meditation is learning not to label. When thoughts arise, learning not to label them such as "good, bad, important, distracting". Just seeing the mind and not labeling our thoughts and experiences, and the goal is to do this in meditation then bring it into all times of your life.

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Re: Why label?

Post by Karma Dondrup Tashi » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:54 pm

It's a pen, guys. Not a chew toy. Don't have any choice in the matter. Like I can snap my fingers and change the way my karma is making me perceive? Don't think so.

So what to do, whatever to do? Just chillax.
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Re: Why label?

Post by muni » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:10 am

Experiences are clouds already gone.

Labeling consciousness stream as I, labeling things as mine, my experience... In our language we do so, but nice it should be, to see the illusion of labeling, at least for me. :pig:

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Re: Why label?

Post by Music » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:39 pm

Let's say I am observing my breath but go off on a train of thought. Do I just label it 'thinking' and then return to breath? It is this kind of labeling I am talking about.

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Re: Why label?

Post by Osho » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:03 pm

Maybe just let it go.
Labelling it is just another thing to think about.
No impertinence intended.
More about Mindfulness here
http://bemindful.co.uk/

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Re: Why label?

Post by muni » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:35 am

Music wrote:Let's say I am observing my breath but go off on a train of thought. Do I just label it 'thinking' and then return to breath? It is this kind of labeling I am talking about.

When mind is going to wander (in thoughts), don't worry, simple come back. Yongye Mingyur Rinpoche.
:anjali:
May the suffering of all beings be pacified.
http://www.tenzinzopa.com/Ebooks/Cttb_B ... mplete.pdf
True change is within, leave the outside as it is. His Holiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drPB75kgZ64

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