Impermanence
- waimengwan
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Impermanence
Can someone let me know which part of the Lamrim (Liberation in the Palm of Your Hand) talks about impermanence.
What is everyone views about impermanence anything good that comes out of it?
What is everyone views about impermanence anything good that comes out of it?
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All things come out of impermanence. My favourite of them is chocolate
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wukong wrote:All things come out of impermanence. My favourite of them is chocolate
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~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Impermanence is just one of existence's qualities, the other two being emptiness and unsatisfactoriness. They are most importantly understood together. For example, what is impermanent is also empty and thus unsatisfactory. What is empty cannot be permanent, thus it is unsatisfactory. All that these qualities apply to is called samsara.waimengwan wrote:Can someone let me know which part of the Lamrim (Liberation in the Palm of Your Hand) talks about impermanence.
What is everyone views about impermanence anything good that comes out of it?
So it is a very, very virtuous notion to focus on and contemplate. What comes from impermanence is empty and unsatisfying, what comes from emptiness is impermanent and unsatisfying, what comes from unsatisfactoriness is impermanent and empty. The release from these qualities is pure bliss, and the absolute end of suffering. In the sense of their unfathomable importance, they are sort of equal to the Hindu trinity of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva.
So, this is my perspective on the matter.
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Precious human life - with the ability to enjoy impermanent chocolate!waimengwan wrote:What is everyone views about impermanence anything good that comes out of it?
If they can sever like and dislike, along with greed, anger, and delusion, regardless of their difference in nature, they will all accomplish the Buddha Path.. ~ Sutra of Complete Enlightenment
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Chocolates are made to be impermanent for sure
@Son thank you for your sharing. I have not heard about from emptiness we derive dissatisfaction and impermanence, thats new to me. Coz I thought from realising emptiness you are free from the ignorance of how things really are. How can realisation from emptiness bring about more dissatisfaction. If I am off tangent please correct me.
@Son thank you for your sharing. I have not heard about from emptiness we derive dissatisfaction and impermanence, thats new to me. Coz I thought from realising emptiness you are free from the ignorance of how things really are. How can realisation from emptiness bring about more dissatisfaction. If I am off tangent please correct me.
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What is empty is impermanent and unsatisfactory. For example the body is empty, and thus impermanent and unsatisfactory.waimengwan wrote:Chocolates are made to be impermanent for sure
@Son thank you for your sharing. I have not heard about from emptiness we derive dissatisfaction and impermanence, thats new to me. Coz I thought from realising emptiness you are free from the ignorance of how things really are. How can realisation from emptiness bring about more dissatisfaction. If I am off tangent please correct me.
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Thank you.What is empty is impermanent and unsatisfactory. For example the body is empty, and thus impermanent and unsatisfactory.
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i believe impermanence is in the small scope teachings of the lam rim.
just sharing my experience. i'm quite a newbie in engaged Buddhism. (in my country we all think we are Buddhist when we offer incense daily to the Buddha or Chenrezig i thought that was all until i read the lam rim)
perhaps a short and effective way to contemplate on impermanence would be the "All compounded things are impermanent" from the four seals of Buddhism.
and also contemplate on the "Suffering of Change" which stated in sutra is “The suffering of change is that which is pleasant when arising, pleasant when remaining, but painful when ceasing.” this comes from the Three types of suffering.
we love to perceive things as permanent due to our attachment. however, through these contemplations or meditations(habituating the mind) above i believe one should be able to develop renunciation.
Just as the three poisons are "attachment" , "aversion" and "ignorance" we should use it to help us develop their "good" counterparts "renunciation", "boddhicitta" and "emptiness/wisdom".
just sharing my experience. i'm quite a newbie in engaged Buddhism. (in my country we all think we are Buddhist when we offer incense daily to the Buddha or Chenrezig i thought that was all until i read the lam rim)
perhaps a short and effective way to contemplate on impermanence would be the "All compounded things are impermanent" from the four seals of Buddhism.
and also contemplate on the "Suffering of Change" which stated in sutra is “The suffering of change is that which is pleasant when arising, pleasant when remaining, but painful when ceasing.” this comes from the Three types of suffering.
we love to perceive things as permanent due to our attachment. however, through these contemplations or meditations(habituating the mind) above i believe one should be able to develop renunciation.
Just as the three poisons are "attachment" , "aversion" and "ignorance" we should use it to help us develop their "good" counterparts "renunciation", "boddhicitta" and "emptiness/wisdom".
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I feel that the positive thing coming out of impermanence is that Samsara is impermanent. The suffering is only a temporary condition. In the end every sentient being will be liberated. Once all the clouds have dissolved there is only Clear Light. In Lam-Rim impermanence is the beginning, in the middle, and in the end. Lam-Rim is the manifestation of the two truths and the method of realizing them.
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