Karma is not the product of conscience, it is the product of action with intention.
Intention is like a wind, action like a wave, conscience like a rock, and karma is rumble of the waves crushing on rock. Conscience is a society shaping fence, limiting the boundaries of freedom. It does that by sense of guilt, which then create suffering. This is how society shapes itself. In other words, suffering is there for a reason. The question is, are we here?
it merely limits the capacity to accurately assess the results of actions.
Precisely. Without such an accuracy, how can you know what is right or wrong? You stop judging and differentiating. Then, sameness is allowed. Need for separate self disappear.
"The Perfect Way is only difficult for those who pick and choose;
Do not like, do not dislike; all will then be clear.
Make a hairbreadth difference, and Heaven and Earth are set apart;
If you want the truth to stand clear before you, never be for or against.
The struggle between "for" and "against" is the mind's worst disease;
While the deep meaning is misunderstood, it is useless to meditate on Rest.
It [the Original Mind] is blank and featureless as space; It has no "too little" or "too much;"
Only because we take and reject does it seem to us not to be so.
Do not chase after entanglements as though they were real things,
Do not try to drive pain away by pretending that it is not real;
Pain, if you seek serenity in Oneness, will vanish of its own accord.
Stop all movement in order to get rest, and rest will itself be restless;
Linger over either extreme, and Oneness is forever lost." -Seng Ts'an
It is an imposition of ignorance.
Look up, because you may trow away the baby with the bath.
dorjeshonnu wrote:But... its always "good" to tell people to do "good" stuff, isn't it?
Positive karma does not automatically produce liberation - it only makes the pursuit of liberation a more pleasant experience. Sometimes the pleasantry of experience can inhibit the pursuit of liberation.
I would say, remembering is the main problem.
Gautama would say ignorance, craving, and distraction are the main problems.
All of them are based on wrong perception of self, which is caused by wrong perception of time, which appears as three worlds. Although in present, experiences from the past are projected into expectations of the future. Those, not fulfilled, create disappointment, sense of guild, and ultimately dukkha. Moment by moment, people are "reborn", in to new and new expectations of how they should act. Suffering is self inflicted. That is incarnation into samsara... thx to memory.
All paths lead to awakening, like roads lead to Rome.
Many paths do not lead to awakening - ignorance and wakefulness have roots in the same sentience.
What made you think that Buddha likes to pick and choose? I am certain that Buddha never divides, as it would affirm duality.
But If I give you guidelines how to get there from my place, will you be able to benefit from it? The common way to deal with this problem is to... gather them all in one place.
The methods of Gautama continue to function, alongside those related to earlier and later appearances of wakefulness
Who said they doesn't? But we have higher vehicles, don't we?
Nothing wrote: oushi wrote:
Nothing wrote:so what you are saying is Sakyamuni does not have the solution to solve the problem...ie. to see through this balance and break out of it? or escape this thing we all call reality?
Not that. He composed and applied teachings to fit actual recipients, not to fit all recipients, even those living 2500 years later. Some may fit, some may not.
Why do you think it is about escaping reality?
So Sakyamuni does have a solution.....but partly...emmm....can you explain what you mean by "all recipients"...do you mean all human beings or animals etc? can you define this?
Not partly. You can approach someone directly and adjust the teaching to perfectly fit the person. Fantastic approach. Or you can compose a teaching that will cover the "shared" part of all recipients. It so happened, that the shared part is all there is. Nothing to throw away, nothing missing. Everything is the same pure presence taking different forms. This is mind.