Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Eating cats in China (not a joke).
This is for real. A lorry full of cats destined for hot pot.
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Grrrrrrr! Woof! Woof! Woof! old habits die hard.
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Huseng wrote:This is for real. A lorry full of cats destined for hot pot.
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This is disturbing and depressing. As one of comment posters in the Telegraph article wrote, eating dogs and cats are not common among the Chinese, and certainly most overseas Chinese consider that barbaric. In many of the large cities in China, the people treat pets the same way as most Westerners do.
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Eating Dogs!!! "What you talking about Willis?"
Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Sure, but almost nobody cares about the cows which are just as intelligent and emotional as the cats...pueraeternus wrote: This is disturbing and depressing. As one of comment posters in the Telegraph article wrote, eating dogs and cats are not common among the Chinese, and certainly most overseas Chinese consider that barbaric. In many of the large cities in China, the people treat pets the same way as most Westerners do.
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Huseng wrote: Sure, but almost nobody cares about the cows which are just as intelligent and emotional as the cats...
There is no logic in exempting the meat of some animals on customary grounds while not exempting all meat.
To be consistent:
A vegetarian would not want to eat a cat just as much as not eating a cow.
An omnivore who eats a cow should be just as willing to eat a cat.
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That is true to some degree. However, I think most people consider pets to be an extension of their human family, hence they don't eat them. If not, based on the above hypothesis, then an omnivore would be also willing to eat humans.David N. Snyder wrote: To be consistent:
A vegetarian would not want to eat a cat just as much as not eating a cow.
An omnivore who eats a cow should be just as willing to eat a cat.
"Men must want to do things out of their own innermost drives. People, not commercial organizations or chains of command, are what make great civilizations work. Every civilization depends upon the quality of the individuals it produces. If you over-organize humans, over-legalize them, suppress their urge to greatness - they cannot work and their civilization collapses."
- A letter to CHOAM, attributed to the Preacher
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True. It is true that humans tend to not want to eat animals that are considered cute, cuddly, or are culturally considered companion animals. But this is not a bad thing, since it limits the number of animals being considered as livestock.Huseng wrote: Sure, but almost nobody cares about the cows which are just as intelligent and emotional as the cats...
"Men must want to do things out of their own innermost drives. People, not commercial organizations or chains of command, are what make great civilizations work. Every civilization depends upon the quality of the individuals it produces. If you over-organize humans, over-legalize them, suppress their urge to greatness - they cannot work and their civilization collapses."
- A letter to CHOAM, attributed to the Preacher
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
I gather the dish is called "Tiger and Dragon Locked in Battle" and that it also contains snake. Does anyone have the recipe?
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Chickens are apparently quite affectionate once you get to know them. They have good memories and remember the pecking order, so to speak.pueraeternus wrote:True. It is true that humans tend to not want to eat animals that are considered cute, cuddly, or are culturally considered companion animals. But this is not a bad thing, since it limits the number of animals being considered as livestock.Huseng wrote: Sure, but almost nobody cares about the cows which are just as intelligent and emotional as the cats...
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Huseng wrote: Chickens are apparently quite affectionate once you get to know them. They have good memories and remember the pecking order, so to speak.
"Men must want to do things out of their own innermost drives. People, not commercial organizations or chains of command, are what make great civilizations work. Every civilization depends upon the quality of the individuals it produces. If you over-organize humans, over-legalize them, suppress their urge to greatness - they cannot work and their civilization collapses."
- A letter to CHOAM, attributed to the Preacher
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
I dunno about you but I find these here pretty cute and cudly:
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Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
As the saying goes in China "We'll eat any animal with its back towards the sun"
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Yipes!! I might have to defend myself around here.
Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
There's a joke out there, I dunno if it will be considered racist (if people take offense to it please PM me to delete it) that goes like this:
What is the only thing with four legs that a Chinese person will not eat?
The table!
Seriously though. I spent a month travelling around China and was amazed at the variety of lving beings that Chinese use in their dishes. I even had the joy of living in a hotel in Guangdong whose entrance opened into a food market. I had the snake venders stall as the first thing I saw every morning when I left the hotel.
Animal rights are a bit of a non-issue in China.
What is the only thing with four legs that a Chinese person will not eat?
The table!
Seriously though. I spent a month travelling around China and was amazed at the variety of lving beings that Chinese use in their dishes. I even had the joy of living in a hotel in Guangdong whose entrance opened into a food market. I had the snake venders stall as the first thing I saw every morning when I left the hotel.
Animal rights are a bit of a non-issue in China.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
As someone from Chinese descent, I actually find this quote quite funny/unfortunately true. :pzenkarma wrote:I gather the dish is called "Tiger and Dragon Locked in Battle" and that it also contains snake. Does anyone have the recipe?
After all, chicken feet are pegged as "Phoenix Claws" in Chinese restaurants.
No wonder the Chinese also have vegetarian mock versions of everything! Mock abalone, mock duck, mock bacon, mock beef etc...
Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
I am a vegetarian, but is it wrong for a buddhist to eat all this? Even a buddhit has to eat to survive.
Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Animals, even dogs exist in a constant state of generating craving and aversion, there is no escape for them. Every fibre of their body is vibrating with craving and aversion, and we wish to escape this habit. Ingesting these vibrations, what kind of vibrations will you have?Music wrote:I am a vegetarian, but is it wrong for a buddhist to eat all this? Even a buddhit has to eat to survive.
Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
Vegetarianism is a lesser of evils. If you're going to eat meat, why have a bias for cute cats while happily devouring cows and pigs?Music wrote:I am a vegetarian, but is it wrong for a buddhist to eat all this? Even a buddhit has to eat to survive.
In this case it seems people are eating the cats as a luxury (and probably as a conversation piece) rather than out of a necessity to survive, which makes the act even worse.
Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).
I wonder: What if rather than euthanizing bad dogs/cats, why not make meat and sell it? If nobody buys it, then give it to the homeless for free. That seems to be better use than just euthanizing them.
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