Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
-
- Posts: 13
- Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:58 pm
Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise since all the science show us how benifitial excercise is. (I dont count daily work as exercise, I mean something like yoga, or lifting weights/bodyweight)
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
Exercise is fine. Walking exercise was talk by the Buddha.
Running is against the rules.
Running is against the rules.
- pueraeternus
- Posts: 865
- Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:10 pm
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
Oh - this is in the Vinaya?Huseng wrote: Running is against the rules.
"Men must want to do things out of their own innermost drives. People, not commercial organizations or chains of command, are what make great civilizations work. Every civilization depends upon the quality of the individuals it produces. If you over-organize humans, over-legalize them, suppress their urge to greatness - they cannot work and their civilization collapses."
- A letter to CHOAM, attributed to the Preacher
- A letter to CHOAM, attributed to the Preacher
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
One Chinese monk explained it to me like this: "It looks bad for us to run in robes."pueraeternus wrote:Oh - this is in the Vinaya?Huseng wrote: Running is against the rules.
-
- Posts: 13
- Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:58 pm
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
Isnt the philosophy that there is no good or bad? That also mean that one is judging.It looks bad for us to run in robes.
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
There's also conventional reality that we have to live in where decorum is important if you rely on the good charity of the community.mrbambocha wrote:Isnt the philosophy that there is no good or bad? That also mean that one is judging.It looks bad for us to run in robes.
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
Not to go off topic, but where do you think traditional Shaolin Chan fits into the picture?Huseng wrote:Exercise is fine. Walking exercise was talk by the Buddha.
Running is against the rules.
I'm talking the old stuff, not the modern day gymnasts.
AFAIK jogging was a part of their old regimen, along with fetching water up the hill, wearing heavy shoes, taolu, and various gung trainings...
And where does that put the marathon monks of Japan?
Just curious, because with my long relationship with martial arts, the more physical forms of meditation come more naturally.
- pueraeternus
- Posts: 865
- Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:10 pm
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
I see. Is this in one of the qinggui (pure rules), or just an unspoken decorum rules?Huseng wrote: One Chinese monk explained it to me like this: "It looks bad for us to run in robes."
"Men must want to do things out of their own innermost drives. People, not commercial organizations or chains of command, are what make great civilizations work. Every civilization depends upon the quality of the individuals it produces. If you over-organize humans, over-legalize them, suppress their urge to greatness - they cannot work and their civilization collapses."
- A letter to CHOAM, attributed to the Preacher
- A letter to CHOAM, attributed to the Preacher
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
They do! Some monks do like upwards of 1,000 bows (prostrations) per day. Full prostrations are very good exercise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTk929t3oFE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One should not kill any living being, nor cause it to be killed, nor should one incite any other to kill. Do never injure any being, whether strong or weak, in this entire universe!
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
Shaolin monks were unpopular with at least some more orthodox authors like Zongze 宗賾 (11th - 12th cent.). It seems they ignored the Chan rules as laid down by Baizhang.PorkChop wrote: Not to go off topic, but where do you think traditional Shaolin Chan fits into the picture?
I'm talking the old stuff, not the modern day gymnasts.
AFAIK jogging was a part of their old regimen, along with fetching water up the hill, wearing heavy shoes, taolu, and various gung trainings...
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
There are many many decorum rules.pueraeternus wrote:I see. Is this in one of the qinggui (pure rules), or just an unspoken decorum rules?Huseng wrote: One Chinese monk explained it to me like this: "It looks bad for us to run in robes."
I'd have to double check, but if I recall correctly it is on the list.
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
I believe I heard that Shechen monastery, Nepal, has a gym.
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
While this is during a short term ordination, I believe the full time monastics also jog. This is an innovation of the late Master Miao Lian of Ling Yan Mountain Monastery. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpmVViF2 ... ure=relmfu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
HH Drukchen Rinpoche's Kung-Fu nuns in Ladakh.
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
I think yoga (trul khor) exercises also exist in all Tibetan lineages -- the Vairo trul khor (Yantra Yoga as ChNN prefers to call it) has 108 different movements.
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
Master Hsing Yun at Foguang Shan encourages his monks and novices to play basketball, Hsing Yun himself has played basketball, has built basketball grounds for his students, and has given teachings on the benefits of playing basketball in the book Bright Star, Luminous Cloud: The Life of a Simple Monk. The role of sports in Foguang Shan is also discussed in Establishing a Pureland On Earth, The Foguang Buddhist Perspective.
svaha
"All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Sarvē mānavāḥ svatantrāḥ samutpannāḥ vartantē api ca, gauravadr̥śā adhikāradr̥śā ca samānāḥ ēva vartantē. Ētē sarvē cētanā-tarka-śaktibhyāṁ susampannāḥ santi. Api ca, sarvē’pi bandhutva-bhāvanayā parasparaṁ vyavaharantu."
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 1. (in english and sanskrit)
"All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Sarvē mānavāḥ svatantrāḥ samutpannāḥ vartantē api ca, gauravadr̥śā adhikāradr̥śā ca samānāḥ ēva vartantē. Ētē sarvē cētanā-tarka-śaktibhyāṁ susampannāḥ santi. Api ca, sarvē’pi bandhutva-bhāvanayā parasparaṁ vyavaharantu."
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 1. (in english and sanskrit)
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
There is also the practice of pilgrimages, on foot that is, and the Three Steps One Bow type of pilgrimages, and the walking pilgrimages of HH Gyalwang Drukpa.
svaha
"All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Sarvē mānavāḥ svatantrāḥ samutpannāḥ vartantē api ca, gauravadr̥śā adhikāradr̥śā ca samānāḥ ēva vartantē. Ētē sarvē cētanā-tarka-śaktibhyāṁ susampannāḥ santi. Api ca, sarvē’pi bandhutva-bhāvanayā parasparaṁ vyavaharantu."
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 1. (in english and sanskrit)
"All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Sarvē mānavāḥ svatantrāḥ samutpannāḥ vartantē api ca, gauravadr̥śā adhikāradr̥śā ca samānāḥ ēva vartantē. Ētē sarvē cētanā-tarka-śaktibhyāṁ susampannāḥ santi. Api ca, sarvē’pi bandhutva-bhāvanayā parasparaṁ vyavaharantu."
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 1. (in english and sanskrit)
-
- Posts: 2229
- Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:19 pm
- Location: Lafayette, CO
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
When I lived across the field from Tharlam Monastery in Boudha, I used to watch the monks take off their robes and revela football/soccer garb underneath. They would run around for hours playing football. There was also a basketball court and a volleyball court inside the walls of the monastery. So those monks definitely exercised and ran, just not in robes.
Pema Chophel པདྨ་ཆོས་འཕེལ
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Icy4bwvHgQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sorry about that, above the link with the kung-fu nuns.
Sorry about that, above the link with the kung-fu nuns.
- Thomas Amundsen
- Posts: 2034
- Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:50 am
- Location: Helena, MT
- Contact:
Re: Why doesnt monks and nuns exercise?
Prostrations are good exercise.