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What do you think?

Postby plwk » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:05 am


Is something true because you believe it OR do you believe it because it is true?

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Re: What do you think?

Postby lowlydog » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:02 pm

If you tell me that fire will burn me, and you explain the charachteristics of fire to me I may believe you.

If I observe you putting your hand in fire and getting burned then this belief is stronger.

Only when I have experienced the fire burning me does it become the highest truth. experiential wisdom. :smile:

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Re: What do you think?

Postby undefineable » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:16 pm

plwk wrote:do you believe it because it is true?

I believe something to be true because I deduce that it's highly likely whatever the circumstances. I can't have absolute proof of anything, so like many philosophers I accept that I *know* nothing.
plwk wrote:Is something true because you believe it

If that was my position I'd probably be a Christian.
"Removing the barrier between this and that is the only solution" {Chogyam Trungpa - "The Lion's Roar"}

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Re: What do you think?

Postby tomamundsen » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:19 am

I'd say that things are true because I believe them. If we have no way of proving, for example, that this universe is not a simulation, can you really say that you know anything to be true? For sure?

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Re: What do you think?

Postby relay » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:11 am

If by "true" we mean a universal truth that transcends even the usual suspects (cultural precedence) across the board, then it is indeed true.
If it needs to satisfy just "me," well then, we're in the right place for that question ;)

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