Smackdown wrote:I just wish the attack can stop and everyone can go back to their practice.
This hasn't effected my practice in the slightest, if anything the situation has deepened it. Again, this is just trying to ignore the situation instead of working to fix it.
Smackdown wrote:You cannot dodge the fact that when you attack the broad, you are also attacking Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche.
Sure I can. The board is not Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche and does not have the final say in board decisions. I'm positive Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche is doing what is best for him to do for sentient beings, but I'm also aware that he has to deal with his situation and those around him.
I am sure it is a sore subject for those who are Barbor Rinpoche's student but please keep your samaya pure. Because in a way you are undermining HHK, KTD and KTC are his centers and he ok the resignation.
I am not undermining Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche or His Holiness the Karmapa in any way. If anything, I think I am helping them by shedding some light on this so the situation can be resolved. By banning Bardor Tulku Rinpoche and his students from teaching at KTD and the KTCs (which I know His Holiness the Karmapa had nothing to do with), the KTD board is only hurting KTD and the KTCs -- and it's because of a personal vendetta by one of the board members with a known history of that type of thing.
How can you think that HHK and KKR are sometimes wise but sometimes not, and sometimes omniscient, and sometimes not?
His Holiness the Karmapa has nothing to do with this matter, so this statement is just silly. Likewise, I think Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche is doing the best he can given his situation. I think you're confusing the fact that while omniscient (knowing everything), they are not omnipotent (can do anything) -- if they were, we'd all be enlightened already. Enlightened beings have to deal with the karma and kleshas of those around them, they can't prevent people from making stupid decisions.
Lastly, I just don't want this thread to create negative karma by delineate newer student from one side or the other because I am sure both centers offer genuine teachings.
This I agree on. Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche's dharma is excellent. But I don't think by talking about this and trying to help fix some of the bad elements of how KTD is run is a bad thing.
Please keep in mind that we are there to learn Dharma, not running for board president or to run the center.
This is true, but you're confusing the president of KTD and the other board members with dharma. Even though some of them were appointed by His Holiness the Karmapa, that doesn't make them infallible. They're sentient beings and they can make mistakes. What's happening here is politics, not dharma, and thats what I have a problem with. They've done something which is really putting a lot of students in turmoil, and trying to drive a wedge between people who have practiced together for years. I don't want to see that happen.