Simon E. wrote:But Zen Master Seung Sahn appears to make such a distinction seeker 242 ?
I think he is just pointing out that people tend to make distinctions like that and that those distinctions come from your own mind alone, not from any external thing or situation. Completely made up or "fabricated". I think he would agree if you were to add this onto the end "And if you don't make either, you get neither!" In other words, whatever you make, that's what you get. If you don't make anything, you don't get anything. Which seems to me to be consistent with Shakyamuni Buddha's statements in the Cetana Sutta SN 12.38
Staying at Savatthi... [the Blessed One said,] "What one intends, what one arranges, and what one obsesses about:[1] This is a support for the stationing of consciousness. There being a support, there is a landing [or: an establishing] of consciousness. When that consciousness lands and grows, there is the production of renewed becoming in the future. When there is the production of renewed becoming in the future, there is future birth, aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair. Such is the origination of this entire mass of suffering & stress.
"If one doesn't intend and doesn't arrange, but one still obsesses [about something], this is a support for the stationing of consciousness. There being a support, there is a landing of consciousness. When that consciousness lands and grows, there is the production of renewed becoming in the future. When there is the production of renewed becoming in the future, there is future birth, aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair. Such [too] is the origination of this entire mass of suffering & stress.
"But when one doesn't intend, arrange, or obsess [about anything], there is no support for the stationing of consciousness. There being no support, there is no landing of consciousness. When that consciousness doesn't land & grow, there is no production of renewed becoming in the future. When there is no production of renewed becoming in the future, there is no future birth, aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, or despair. Such is the cessation of this entire mass of suffering & stress."
The way I see it, Seung Sahn is essentially saying the same thing, just in a very condensed "non-explaining" zen style. "You make, you get" is essentially "zen style" dependent origination. That is how see it anyway.