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Most recent terma?

Post by dzogchungpa » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:56 am

Does anyone knows what the most recent terma is?
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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by Nilasarasvati » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:28 am

I've wondered if DJKR has revealed anything. He swears off anything even remotely related to that, as far as I know.

Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche had a wealth of Termas in the Shambala stuff... but I don't know anything specific.

I wonder.
I look forward to hearing any answers to this question.

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by namoh » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:49 am

Chagdud Tulku Rinpoche and Khenpo Jigme Phuntsok RInpoche come to mind.

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by CrawfordHollow » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:51 am

What about Kunzang Dechen Lingpa?

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by ngodrup » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:01 am

H. H Orgyen Kusum Lingpa and others as well.

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by dzogchungpa » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:12 am

So, are there any that are less than ten years old, say? Are any of these new termas you have mentioned being taught and practiced?
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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by yegyal » Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:07 am

It would be impossible to say which is the newest, because, unless they're revealed in public, it could be years before the seal of secrecy is lifted by the terton. Nevertheless, neither Jigme Phuntsog, Kusum Lingpa, or many of the other tertons mentioned here that are deceased, would top the list, as there are quite a lot of tertons still active in Kham and Amdo these days. Though, I can't think of anything off hand that is less than ten years old, but that's mostly because anything that fresh would certainly not have been published or made widely available at this early stage. However, there's definitely a lot of recent termas being propagated in the areas I just mentioned.

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by ngodrup » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:31 am

I'll tell you how "fresh" it can be.
Kusum Lingpa was giving a wang in Berkeley,
afterward he called his son to start writing.
He was revealing a new terma for the deity
that he had just given empowerment for--
intended for those present.

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by heart » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:40 am

dzogchungpa wrote:Does anyone knows what the most recent terma is?
ChNNR Longsal termas is very recent.

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by pemachophel » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:15 pm

There are terma being revealed all the time. Sometimes these are taught immediately. Often the Terton will practice the new terma in secret for some time until He or She has manifestly accomplished it.

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by MaitriYNOD » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:45 am

I know H.H. Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche revealed some mind termas that are currently being practiced.
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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by Kunzang » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:19 pm

heart wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:Does anyone knows what the most recent terma is?
ChNNR Longsal termas is very recent.

/magnus
Last summer at the Hawaii retreat he said "Some people call them termas, I don't call them termas, I don't know what they are."

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by heart » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:40 pm

Kunzang wrote:
heart wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:Does anyone knows what the most recent terma is?
ChNNR Longsal termas is very recent.

/magnus
Last summer at the Hawaii retreat he said "Some people call them termas, I don't call them termas, I don't know what they are."
Well, is that what you recall or an exact quote or something you heard someone else say?

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Re: Most recent terma?

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by Pero » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:31 pm

heart wrote:
Kunzang wrote:
heart wrote: ChNNR Longsal termas is very recent.

/magnus
Last summer at the Hawaii retreat he said "Some people call them termas, I don't call them termas, I don't know what they are."
Well, is that what you recall or an exact quote or something you heard someone else say?

/magnus
He did deny being a terton in the past hehe. But I don't know why he's saying that, It's a little funny because if you read the Longsal volumes they sure seems like termas to me and he like a terton (for Mandarava he himself even says it can be considered a gongter and his namkha is a gongter too etc.). Maybe he's being humble or it has to do with the fact that Changchub Dorje and Uncle Khyentse were really incredible tertons. Maybe Longsal is more of a pure vision thing than terma. :shrug:
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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by dzogchungpa » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:52 pm

MaitriYNOD wrote:I know H.H. Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche revealed some mind termas that are currently being practiced.
Are you thinking of the Rangjung Peme Nyingtik? I am very interested in that. Is it actually being taught and/or practiced now?
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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by Arnoud » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:55 pm

Yegyal is right. There are many termas being revealed in eastern Tibet. Unfortunately, we hardly hear about them here in the west. There are many great Lamas still in Tibet, doing things the old way, having realized students, and bringing the Dharma to many people. They just don't have the internet. :smile:

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by dzogchungpa » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:01 pm

The question about ChNNR's Longsal material is interesting. I do remember that there was some discussion about whether it should be considered Terma, strictly speaking, but I don't have the expertise to comment on that. Does anyone know?
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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by mutsuk » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:26 pm

ChNNR's Klong-gsal works are styled as "mnal chos", i.e. teachings (chos) discovered during sleep/dream (mnal).

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Re: Most recent terma?

Post by dzogchungpa » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:57 pm

OK, thanks.
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