White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

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White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by dzoki » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:06 am

Guys and galls there is an interesting article on himalayanart about the Lama with white Karmapa-style hat:
http://www.himalayanart.org/news/post.c ... -tradition" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So now we have almost all colours:
Black Crown
Karmapa
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Red Crown
Shamar Rinpoche
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Situ Rinpoche (sorry couldn´t find a pic with his real crown)
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Orange Crown
Gyaltsab Rinpoche
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Multicolored Crown
Karma Chagme Rinpoche
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Pawo Rinpoche
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I heard that there is a Lama in Zurmang tradition, who is the bearer of Green crown, but I couldn´t find the pic. Does anyone have any info on the Lama? Any other "crowned" lamas of Karma Kagyu and related branch lineages?

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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by Dhondrub » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:13 am

The late Kyabje Kalu Rinpoches Guru Yishin Norbu was known as the White Crown Lama. According to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangpa_Kagyu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And here is a pic of the current TsaTsa Drubgön Rinpoche whose former incarnation recieved the white crown from 8th Karmapa Mikyö Dorje http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/6166947" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by Grigoris » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:41 am

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Sharmapa with red crown.
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Tsa Tsa Lamas white crown.
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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by Grigoris » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:47 am

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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by Dhondrub » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:02 pm

The Wikipedia article I posted above states: "In the west, the principle teacher of the Shangpa Kagyu lineage was the first Kalu Rinpoche. He received the lineage teachings in the early 1940s when he went for training at Tsa Tsa Monastery in Eastern Tibet. He trained with the Abbot of the monastery, His Holiness the eighth Tsa Tsa Drubgen, Yizhin Norbu, also called Karma Singhe and the White Crown Master. The Karma Kagyu regent H.E. Tai Situ Rinpoche described Yizhin Norbu as “one of the most learned and accomplished Kagyu masters now living.”
There, Kalu Rinpoche received the complete cycle of the Shangpa teachings during a closed retreat. Tsa Tsa monastery is also a major Dakpo Kagyu Centre and preserves the rime tradition. His Holiness the Tsa Tsa Drubgen Yizhin Norbu died in the middle of June, 2005. The Shangpa traditions are currently held by his regent and successor His Holiness the second Gyalten Thongwa Rangdrol..."

Maybe of topic but according to Kyabje Kalu Rinpoches site the only masters upholding the Shangpa lineage are Yangsi Kalu Rinpoche, HE Tai Situ Rinpoche, HE Gyaltsab Rinpoche and Kyabje Tenga Rinpoche http://www.paldenshangpa.org/Official-Letter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So does anybody know anything about that Shangpa lineage in Tibet upheld by HH the 2nd Gyalten Thongwa Rangdrol?

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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by conebeckham » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:43 pm

Nope, and I'm waiting to hear more!!!
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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by Palzang Jangchub » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:58 pm

dzoki wrote: Multicolored Crown
Karma Chagme Rinpoche
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I heard that there is a Lama in Zurmang tradition, who is the bearer of Green crown, but I couldn´t find the pic. Does anyone have any info on the Lama? Any other "crowned" lamas of Karma Kagyu and related branch lineages?
Not sure about in Zurmang Kagyu, but Karma Khenchen Rinpoche---the younger son of the late Neydo Karma Chagme---wears a green hat.

He is said to be a reincarnation of Abbot Shantarakshita and an emanation of Vimalamitra.

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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by smcj » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:30 pm

After a while you'd think they'd figure out how to make hats so the wearer doesn't have to hold it on their heads with their hand!
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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by lelopa » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:39 pm

smcj wrote:After a while you'd think they'd figure out how to make hats so the wearer doesn't have to hold it on their heads with their hand!
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but i think these hats are not for wearing like the small-ones but for doing a cremony - don't know
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Post by Dorje Nyingpo » Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:37 pm

Here's one of Situ Rinpoche with Crown Image

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Post by Dorje Nyingpo » Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:40 pm

But I can't find one of Shamar Rinpoche or the two 17th Karmapas with Vajra Crowns. Did they ever perform a Crown Ceremony?

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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by Dorje Nyingpo » Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:44 pm

Karma Jinpa wrote:
dzoki wrote: I heard that there is a Lama in Zurmang tradition, who is the bearer of Green crown, but I couldn´t find the pic. Does anyone have any info on the Lama? Any other "crowned" lamas of Karma Kagyu and related branch lineages?
Not sure about in Zurmang Kagyu, but Karma Khenchen Rinpoche---the younger son of the late Neydo Karma Chagme---wears a green hat.

He is said to be a reincarnation of Abbot Shantarakshita and an emanation of Vimalamitra.

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Short bio: http://www.neydo.org/?key=1&pos=3&act=pagesbiograph
Here's another Master with a green hat:

Jiezhong Rinpoche
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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by mire » Mon May 04, 2015 7:47 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V13HhXhzYDs

Concretely what does Red Crown ceremony from HH Gyalstab Rinpoche represent?

Black Hat ceremony is linked to Chenrezi Karmapa reciting mani mantras but what about the red crown of HH Gyaltsab for example? What is it linked to?
Thanks for your answer since those Hats ceremonies are not very clear for me

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Re: White hat Karma Kagyu Lama

Post by crazy-man » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:05 pm

So does anybody know anything about that Shangpa lineage in Tibet upheld by HH the 2nd Gyalten Thongwa Rangdrol?
yes, the web knows:
http://www.liquisearch.com/shangpa_kagy ... ge_holders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangpa_Kagyu

Red Crown Ceremony by H. E. Gyaltsab Rinpoche
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V13HhXhzYDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNUBYR_sH7o
http://tormafilm.com/2014/05/11/gyaltsa ... -ceremony/

Red Crown Ceremony by Chamgon Tai Situ Rinpoche
http://www.palpung.eu/diverse-alben/rot ... npoche/en/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtbTo7WV5K0

Lotus Crown Ceremony by 7th Karma Chagme Rinpoche
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NcSS4Aj7gs

Sharmapa with red crown
http://blog.dwbuk.org/

Sharmapa and Karmapa with "new" crown
http://blog.dwbuk.org/buddhist-teachers ... -rinpoche/

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