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Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by lasirene » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:35 pm

Hi guys.
Yesterday I received a Vajrayogini empowerment from Drikung Kagyu lineage. Unfortunately, I have only Polish sadhana text transcription. I wonder if anyone here will be kind enough to help me learn the Tibetan syllables.
I need E, PAM, RAM, BAM, HAM, JOM, HRING, MOM.
Please someone help me. I waited a long time for this abhisheka. and I would sit down to practice this as soon as possible.

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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by Tanaduk » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:41 pm

Cześć, część z tych sylab znajdziesz pod tym linkiem http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... _Syllables
Ta mała czarna kropeczka przy sylabach to nie jest ich część, to znak oddzielający sylaby.
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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by Konchog1 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:53 pm

Tanaduk wrote:Cześć, część z tych sylab znajdziesz pod tym linkiem http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... _Syllables
Ta mała czarna kropeczka przy sylabach to nie jest ich część, to znak oddzielający sylaby.
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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by Tanaduk » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:38 pm

Konchog1 wrote:Are those circles required in Dhih and Hrih?
Two circles on the right? Yes, of course.
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But small dot on the right is not required.
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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by lasirene » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:18 pm

Thank you Tanaduk :thanks: . I've E, PAM, RAM, BAM, HAM and PHET. Does anybody know how look JOM, HRING and MOM syllables? Anyone?

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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by lasirene » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:46 pm

Wooooow thank you :woohoo:
So I need HAM JOM only. I've found HAM, so maybe there is someone who knows like JOM syllable looks? Anyone?

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Post by narraboth » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:03 pm

lasirene wrote:Wooooow thank you :woohoo:
So I need HAM JOM only. I've found HAM, so maybe there is someone who knows like JOM syllable looks? Anyone?
there is no 'J' in Tibetan. They use 'dz' instead. Try 'Dzom'.

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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by Tanaduk » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:38 pm

For HRING look at first verse of prayer: http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-mas ... ati-praise
HRING from post above is wrong but MOM is OK.
In polish is JOM in english is YOM :smile:

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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by lasirene » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:45 pm

Guys, you are great! :woohoo: thank you! :hug:

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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by DespreTine » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:42 pm

narraboth wrote:there is no 'J' in Tibetan. They use 'dz' instead. Try 'Dzom'.
I know it's common for "dz" to replace "j" in a lot of places (dzambala instead of jambhala, for example).

Is there some reason ཇ (ja) does not get used?
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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by Thomas Amundsen » Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:48 am

narraboth wrote:
lasirene wrote:Wooooow thank you :woohoo:
So I need HAM JOM only. I've found HAM, so maybe there is someone who knows like JOM syllable looks? Anyone?
there is no 'J' in Tibetan. They use 'dz' instead. Try 'Dzom'.
Yes there is.

ཇ is JA
ཛ is DZA

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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by Thomas Amundsen » Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:56 am

DespreTine wrote:
narraboth wrote:there is no 'J' in Tibetan. They use 'dz' instead. Try 'Dzom'.
I know it's common for "dz" to replace "j" in a lot of places (dzambala instead of jambhala, for example).

Is there some reason ཇ (ja) does not get used?
Dzambhala is transliterated from Sanksirt and the Sanskrit 'ja' actually does not sound like the Tibetan 'ja'. It seems that because of this, they choose to transliterate ज ('ja') as ཛ ('dza').

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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by Fortyeightvows » Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:08 am

The hring mom I posted is from a drikung vy sadhana. fpmt's sadhana shows it the same way.
We are talking about the armor, right?

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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by lasirene » Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:55 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:The hring mom I posted is from a drikung vy sadhana. fpmt's sadhana shows it the same way.
We are talking about the armor, right?
That's right. Did I wrote the other syllables correctly?

Do you remember the precise lineage of this practice? Lama Tsering Rinpoche said that it comes from the Dakini of Dharmakaya -> Maitripa (?) -> Marpa -> Milarepa. But I'm not sure whether it was Maitripa...

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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by Fortyeightvows » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:58 am

I'm pretty sure the syllables I posted are correct. both of them. I checked another copy of the sadhana and it has them the same way.

The character that user tanadruk put for hring is actually the character for hrih. a google search confirms this.

Of course this doesn't explain how it transliterated in the link to the praise of sarasvati

If there is someone else on here who really knows, please clarify.
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Re: Can anyone help me with Tibetan syllables?

Post by DespreTine » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:03 am

tomamundsen wrote:Dzambhala is transliterated from Sanksirt and the Sanskrit 'ja' actually does not sound like the Tibetan 'ja'. It seems that because of this, they choose to transliterate ज ('ja') as ཛ ('dza').
Thanks! I don't really know much about Sanskrit and I'm still very new to Tibetan.
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