Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
Sad:
Post-mortem: Why Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
http://www.coloradoindependent.com/1610 ... o-fracking
Anyway, do not give up !
Manju
Post-mortem: Why Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
http://www.coloradoindependent.com/1610 ... o-fracking
Anyway, do not give up !
Manju
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Re: Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
Never ever give up!
In the absence of decent leadership from higher levels of government (in the USA, here in Oz, and elsewhere) action on fracking and renewable energy is occurring at lower and lower levels ... go down far enough and you find participatory democracy actually works.
That latest earthquake http://www.naturalnews.com/055229_frack ... ahoma.html should have woken up a few more people to the dangers. And if you still haven't got much local support, organise screenings of Gaslands.
Kim
In the absence of decent leadership from higher levels of government (in the USA, here in Oz, and elsewhere) action on fracking and renewable energy is occurring at lower and lower levels ... go down far enough and you find participatory democracy actually works.
That latest earthquake http://www.naturalnews.com/055229_frack ... ahoma.html should have woken up a few more people to the dangers. And if you still haven't got much local support, organise screenings of Gaslands.
Kim
Re: Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
Disagree with the treehuggers. I'm all for fracking as long we have some standards put in place.
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I take it that you have no children, or don't care about what kind of world they will inherit from you.Rakz wrote:Disagree with the treehuggers. I'm all for fracking as long we have some standards put in place.
Kim
Re: Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
Both economy and environment matter to me hence why I said standards are needed.Kim O'Hara wrote:I take it that you have no children, or don't care about what kind of world they will inherit from you.Rakz wrote:Disagree with the treehuggers. I'm all for fracking as long we have some standards put in place.
Kim
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The sad thing is regulation is difficult because companies won't say what the fracking liquid is citing corporate secrets.
"Morality does not become pure unless darkness is dispelled by the light of wisdom"
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It is all poison. That is why they won't say.Lobsang Chojor wrote:The sad thing is regulation is difficult because companies won't say what the fracking liquid is citing corporate secrets.
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I did a project on it at school and it was disturbing the impacts and how it's carried out.Malcolm wrote:It is all poison. That is why they won't say.Lobsang Chojor wrote:The sad thing is regulation is difficult because companies won't say what the fracking liquid is citing corporate secrets.
Very sneaky work from these companies
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All the evidence is that renewable energy is better for both the economy and the environment than fossil fuels.Rakz wrote:Both economy and environment matter to me hence why I said standards are needed.Kim O'Hara wrote:I take it that you have no children, or don't care about what kind of world they will inherit from you.Rakz wrote:Disagree with the treehuggers. I'm all for fracking as long we have some standards put in place.
Kim
Kim
Re: Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
Yes for environment but not economy.Kim O'Hara wrote: All the evidence is that renewable energy is better for both the economy and the environment than fossil fuels.
Kim
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Is the economy not dependent on the environment?Rakz wrote: Yes for environment but not economy.
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Re: Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
It is dependent on exploiting it unfortunately.Lobsang Chojor wrote: Is the economy not dependent on the environment?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_ ... ate_changeRakz wrote:Yes for environment but not economy.Kim O'Hara wrote: All the evidence is that renewable energy is better for both the economy and the environment than fossil fuels.
Kim
and particularly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_Review
and http://www.climatehotmap.org/global-war ... onomy.html
The tl;dr version is that unchecked climate change (i.e. unchecked fossil fuel consumption) will bring on something at least as bad as a major global depression akin to the 1930s one.
Kim
Re: Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
It is then not sustainable. To exploit something is to use it beyond its capacity to sustain itself. If we use the environment beyonds its capacity to sustain itself, the economy that depends on such an environment will collapse when the environment it has destroyed collapses. This is the lesson of the rise and fall of world civilizations since we have had records with which to track these things.Rakz wrote:It is dependent on exploiting it unfortunately.Lobsang Chojor wrote: Is the economy not dependent on the environment?
We, sadly, have learned nothing.
Re: Colorado’s anti-fracking measures didn’t make the ballot
Malcolm wrote:
``We, sadly, have learned nothing.``
I say:
We have learned a lot but WE are not able to move it in the right direction (yet.....)
because WE are not the majority in companies and governments (yet.....).
It will take time but WE will take over.
A small ray of hope today:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-rule-tod ... d=41973080
And always recommendable to keep the spirits up:
Movie Erin Brockovich...,
and so on and so forth.
Keep the spirit up, people,
Manju
(just prepairing a press conference against a corrupt politician, so a bit over the edge, he he)
``We, sadly, have learned nothing.``
I say:
We have learned a lot but WE are not able to move it in the right direction (yet.....)
because WE are not the majority in companies and governments (yet.....).
It will take time but WE will take over.
A small ray of hope today:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-rule-tod ... d=41973080
And always recommendable to keep the spirits up:
Movie Erin Brockovich...,
and so on and so forth.
Keep the spirit up, people,
Manju
(just prepairing a press conference against a corrupt politician, so a bit over the edge, he he)
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Good luck!Manju wrote:(just prepairing a press conference against a corrupt politician, so a bit over the edge, he he)
Kim