A reading of any namthar collection will answer your first question. Hint: there are countless episodes of masters either further propagating the teachings by being in relationships or having a lesser impact do to remaining renunciates.Aryjna wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:06 amDo you know for a fact that in the majority of the cases of lineage masters being married the choice is not largely cultural? And that they actually flourished because of the relationship, while their realization would be less without it?Josef wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:55 pmThis is definitely not the case. Some people are more inclined to using their relationships as a spiritual support (this goes far beyond goofy notions of sexual spirituality).Aryjna wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:27 pm Though it seems it is considered something that can be achieved through practice, it really doesn't seem to fit in with other worldly siddhis. Contrary to wealth, removing obstacles, etc., finding a girlfriend is something inherently counterproductive to practice.
Many practitioners have flourished through their intimate relationships and many of our lineage masters have done the same.
Of course it is not necessarily always negative. But there really is no way to compare an advanced practitioner having a partner to someone of little realization having a partner who is also of little realization. As I see it, it is at the very best a neutral thing as far as practice goes, and this is probably only true for a very small minority of the cases, with most of them falling more or less into the 'counterproductive' range.
I am not saying one shouldn't have a relationship. But that it is not something that really helps, such as having obstacles to practice removed, longer life so that you have more time for practice, and other kinds of mundane siddhis that support practice.
You do realize that relationships are contributors to those mundane siddhis you mention, right?