Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

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Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by pael » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:04 pm

Teaching, Avalokiteshvara Empowerment and Long-Life Offering
January 14th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 15th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 16th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST

13-Diety Yamantaka Empowerment
January 18th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST (prepararion)
January 19th: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST (actual empowerment)

Chakrasambhava Empowerment
January 20th: 9:00am - 11:30am IST

Solitary Yamantaka Empowerment
January 21st: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST
https://www.dalailama.com/live
Commitments?
May all beings be free from suffering and causes of suffering

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Re: Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by Lobsang Chojor » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:26 pm

His holiness' doesn't usually reveal the commitments until the actual empowerment.
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Re: Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by Norwegian » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:22 pm

Lobsang Chojor wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:26 pm
His holiness' doesn't usually reveal the commitments until the actual empowerment.
As is normal.

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Post by jmlee369 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:42 am

It is hard to say for sure what the commitments will be, but you can make reasonable guesses. Definitely daily Six Session Guru Yoga. Almost certainly daily recitation of Yoga of Three Purifications. Quite possibly a daily Yamantaka sadhana, if not two.

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Post by pael » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:27 pm

jmlee369 wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:42 am
It is hard to say for sure what the commitments will be, but you can make reasonable guesses. Definitely daily Six Session Guru Yoga. Almost certainly daily recitation of Yoga of Three Purifications. Quite possibly a daily Yamantaka sadhana, if not two.
Even throught webcast? All watchers are not diligent. Do they tell where to get liturgies?
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Post by Norwegian » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:15 pm

pael wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:27 pm
jmlee369 wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:42 am
It is hard to say for sure what the commitments will be, but you can make reasonable guesses. Definitely daily Six Session Guru Yoga. Almost certainly daily recitation of Yoga of Three Purifications. Quite possibly a daily Yamantaka sadhana, if not two.
Even throught webcast? All watchers are not diligent. Do they tell where to get liturgies?
When you participate in something like an empowerment, if it's an empowerment that can be given via webcast, then you are on the same level in terms of eligibility, as someone who is there in person. A webcast like this is not just some video you watch for fun. It comes with the same commitments like attending in person.

As for being diligent or not, that is on the practitioner.

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Re: Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by liuzg150181 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:34 pm

pael wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:04 pm
Teaching, Avalokiteshvara Empowerment and Long-Life Offering
January 14th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 15th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 16th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST

13-Diety Yamantaka Empowerment
January 18th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST (prepararion)
January 19th: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST (actual empowerment)

Chakrasambhava Empowerment
January 20th: 9:00am - 11:30am IST

Solitary Yamantaka Empowerment
January 21st: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST
https://www.dalailama.com/live
Commitments?
For 13-deity Yamantaka Empowerment,does one need to attend everything on Jan 19th,or one also needs to attend on Jan 18th beforehand?

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Post by jmlee369 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:55 am

In the past, HHDL has stated that a specific empowerment transmission over webcast was valid. Whether or not these empowerments will be considered valid is up to HHDL's, so I would keep an eye out for any such statements during the preliminary teachings. In the case of the Kalachakra last year for example, they streamed the actual empowerments live but did not archive them as the transmission would not be valid as a recording. In the case of the Chenrezig empowerment in Italy from the 5th Dalai Lama's cycle of revelations, HHDL also stated that it was valid to receive over webcast.

If you are aware of what is happening and following along during a webcast which HHDL has declared to be a valid transmission, you should consider yourself bound by all samaya and commitments as if you attended in person. This is not a light decision to make, so do think carefully before joining.

Regarding preparation and actual empowerment sessions, if a person has previously received a complete highest yoga tantra initiation with both preparation and actual empowerments, you may attend only the actual empowerment. However, in the case of the 13 deity Yamantaka here, I would say you should attend all three sessions because HHDL may not perform the ritual exactly as scheduled.

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Re: Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by liuzg150181 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:32 am

jmlee369 wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:55 am
In the past, HHDL has stated that a specific empowerment transmission over webcast was valid. Whether or not these empowerments will be considered valid is up to HHDL's, so I would keep an eye out for any such statements during the preliminary teachings. In the case of the Kalachakra last year for example, they streamed the actual empowerments live but did not archive them as the transmission would not be valid as a recording. In the case of the Chenrezig empowerment in Italy from the 5th Dalai Lama's cycle of revelations, HHDL also stated that it was valid to receive over webcast.

If you are aware of what is happening and following along during a webcast which HHDL has declared to be a valid transmission, you should consider yourself bound by all samaya and commitments as if you attended in person. This is not a light decision to make, so do think carefully before joining.

Regarding preparation and actual empowerment sessions, if a person has previously received a complete highest yoga tantra initiation with both preparation and actual empowerments, you may attend only the actual empowerment. However, in the case of the 13 deity Yamantaka here, I would say you should attend all three sessions because HHDL may not perform the ritual exactly as scheduled.
Had actually taken 13 deities Yamantaka empowerment from Jhado Rinpoche,so right now I am considering taking this again from HHDL.
Since I need to ration my company leaves(partly for future teachings), I might just take a leave this Friday to attend the actual empowerment, only issue is if there is any change in schedule.

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Post by jmlee369 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:02 am

liuzg150181 wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:32 am
jmlee369 wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:55 am
In the past, HHDL has stated that a specific empowerment transmission over webcast was valid. Whether or not these empowerments will be considered valid is up to HHDL's, so I would keep an eye out for any such statements during the preliminary teachings. In the case of the Kalachakra last year for example, they streamed the actual empowerments live but did not archive them as the transmission would not be valid as a recording. In the case of the Chenrezig empowerment in Italy from the 5th Dalai Lama's cycle of revelations, HHDL also stated that it was valid to receive over webcast.

If you are aware of what is happening and following along during a webcast which HHDL has declared to be a valid transmission, you should consider yourself bound by all samaya and commitments as if you attended in person. This is not a light decision to make, so do think carefully before joining.

Regarding preparation and actual empowerment sessions, if a person has previously received a complete highest yoga tantra initiation with both preparation and actual empowerments, you may attend only the actual empowerment. However, in the case of the 13 deity Yamantaka here, I would say you should attend all three sessions because HHDL may not perform the ritual exactly as scheduled.
Had actually taken 13 deities Yamantaka empowerment from Jhado Rinpoche,so right now I am considering taking this again from HHDL.
Since I need to ration my company leaves(partly for future teachings), I might just take a leave this Friday to attend the actual empowerment, only issue is if there is any change in schedule.
It's always a gamble, just with the recent Hayagriva initiation at Sera, HH did everything in one session instead of two. The important thing is that you are there for the ritual procedures at the start of the actual empowerment prior to entering the mandala.

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Post by liuzg150181 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:17 am

jmlee369 wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:02 am
liuzg150181 wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:32 am
jmlee369 wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:55 am
In the past, HHDL has stated that a specific empowerment transmission over webcast was valid. Whether or not these empowerments will be considered valid is up to HHDL's, so I would keep an eye out for any such statements during the preliminary teachings. In the case of the Kalachakra last year for example, they streamed the actual empowerments live but did not archive them as the transmission would not be valid as a recording. In the case of the Chenrezig empowerment in Italy from the 5th Dalai Lama's cycle of revelations, HHDL also stated that it was valid to receive over webcast.

If you are aware of what is happening and following along during a webcast which HHDL has declared to be a valid transmission, you should consider yourself bound by all samaya and commitments as if you attended in person. This is not a light decision to make, so do think carefully before joining.

Regarding preparation and actual empowerment sessions, if a person has previously received a complete highest yoga tantra initiation with both preparation and actual empowerments, you may attend only the actual empowerment. However, in the case of the 13 deity Yamantaka here, I would say you should attend all three sessions because HHDL may not perform the ritual exactly as scheduled.
Had actually taken 13 deities Yamantaka empowerment from Jhado Rinpoche,so right now I am considering taking this again from HHDL.
Since I need to ration my company leaves(partly for future teachings), I might just take a leave this Friday to attend the actual empowerment, only issue is if there is any change in schedule.
It's always a gamble, just with the recent Hayagriva initiation at Sera, HH did everything in one session instead of two. The important thing is that you are there for the ritual procedures at the start of the actual empowerment prior to entering the mandala.
Nvm already,got deadline to meet at work,so unlikely able to take leave. :crying:
Even for weekend empowerments I can't make it due to activities,guess I have to wait to make the connection in the future...... :shrug:

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Post by Nyedrag Yeshe » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:32 pm

pael wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:04 pm
Teaching, Avalokiteshvara Empowerment and Long-Life Offering
January 14th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 15th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 16th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST

13-Diety Yamantaka Empowerment
January 18th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST (prepararion)
January 19th: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST (actual empowerment)

Chakrasambhava Empowerment
January 20th: 9:00am - 11:30am IST

Solitary Yamantaka Empowerment
January 21st: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST
https://www.dalailama.com/live
Commitments?
I remember the commitments for all empowerments, as Gyalwa Rinpoche stated them before the Chenresig Wangchen. If you want me to tell them, ask and I'll PM it to you!
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“Whatever the situation is, it’s fine!”
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Re: Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by liuzg150181 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:23 pm

Nyedrag Yeshe wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:32 pm
pael wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:04 pm
Teaching, Avalokiteshvara Empowerment and Long-Life Offering
January 14th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 15th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 16th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST

13-Diety Yamantaka Empowerment
January 18th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST (prepararion)
January 19th: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST (actual empowerment)

Chakrasambhava Empowerment
January 20th: 9:00am - 11:30am IST

Solitary Yamantaka Empowerment
January 21st: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST
https://www.dalailama.com/live
Commitments?
I remember the commitments for all empowerments, as Gyalwa Rinpoche stated them before the Chenresig Wangchen. If you want me to tell them, ask and I'll PM it to you!
Commitments for Chakrasambhava and Solitary Yamantaka empowerment? Since there is a small chance i could attend either......

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Re: Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by pael » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:44 pm

Nyedrag Yeshe wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:32 pm
pael wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:04 pm
Teaching, Avalokiteshvara Empowerment and Long-Life Offering
January 14th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 15th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST
January 16th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST

13-Diety Yamantaka Empowerment
January 18th: 9:00am - 12:00noon IST (prepararion)
January 19th: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST (actual empowerment)

Chakrasambhava Empowerment
January 20th: 9:00am - 11:30am IST

Solitary Yamantaka Empowerment
January 21st: 9:30am - 11:30am & 12:30pm - 2:30pm IST
https://www.dalailama.com/live
Commitments?
I remember the commitments for all empowerments, as Gyalwa Rinpoche stated them before the Chenresig Wangchen. If you want me to tell them, ask and I'll PM it to you!
Yes, please.
May all beings be free from suffering and causes of suffering

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Re: Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by Lhasa » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:54 pm

pael wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:44 pm
Nyedrag Yeshe wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:32 pm
pael wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:04 pm

https://www.dalailama.com/live
Commitments?
I remember the commitments for all empowerments, as Gyalwa Rinpoche stated them before the Chenresig Wangchen. If you want me to tell them, ask and I'll PM it to you!
Yes, please.
yes, please

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Re: Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by pael » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:00 pm

Lhasa wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:54 pm
pael wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:44 pm
Nyedrag Yeshe wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:32 pm

I remember the commitments for all empowerments, as Gyalwa Rinpoche stated them before the Chenresig Wangchen. If you want me to tell them, ask and I'll PM it to you!
Yes, please.
yes, please
Need to know.
May all beings be free from suffering and causes of suffering

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Re: Empowerments by Dalai Lama on 14th-16th&18th-21th

Post by Miroku » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:07 pm

pael wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:00 pm
Lhasa wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:54 pm
pael wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:44 pm

Yes, please.
yes, please
Need to know.
Me too, please.
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