Grigoris wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:52 am
Malcolm wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:36 am
If one”s own vision of all phenomena is not pure in every way, tellling other people to practice pure vision is pure hypocrisy, whether or not one is a teacher.
I'm sorry, but did you just call Shenphen Dawa Rinpoche a hypocrite?
Of course not.
Are you saying that only a Buddha can practice pure vision?
Why would a Buddha need to practice pure vision? They are free of afflictions.
Surely one has to try (train in) practicing pure vision before reaching the 24/7 point?
Let me ask you —— what is the purpose of pure vision? What does it mean to you?
Is everybody that is in training a hypocrite?
Those people, whose own afflictions are not in check, that demand or suggest others observe pure vision are definitely hypocrites, whether they are teachers or students.
Therefore, everyone (gurus included) should check and see whether their own afflictions are in check prior to criticizing what they imagine to be the afflicted perceptions of others. If people really did this, I bet the silence would be deafening.
Full disclosure-- everything I say and do is merely the glow of the raging bonfire of my own afflictions, which is why you never see me recommending to anyone that they should "practice" pure vision with respect to anything or anyone as a rebuke or a remedy to some worldly controversy. I have discussed the notion of training in pure vision with respect to the creation stage, because that is the essential theory of the creation stage.
More to the point, if one has to train in pure vision one is afflicted. If one is afflicted, one's vision is not pure. One's vision will not become pure by imagining that one is a buddha in the middle of a palace surrounded by gods, goddesses, and so on. It will not become pure by imagining one's guru is a buddha.
One's vision will only become pure when one is free from grasping. Therefore, it is much better to train in nongrasping than it is to train in pure vision.