Prajñāpāramitā and it's most influential commentaries.

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Prajñāpāramitā and it's most influential commentaries.

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Hi,

I'm interested in the most influential sutras and commentaries of the Prajñāpāramitā teachings. I am leaning towards studying the Abhisamayalamkara.
https://www.amazon.com/Gone-Beyond-Praj ... XWENT518EW


Also I am interested in any resources you would recommend.

Thanks
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Sennin wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:30 pm Hi,

I'm interested in the most influential sutras and commentaries of the Prajñāpāramitā teachings. I am leaning towards studying the Abhisamayalamkara.
https://www.amazon.com/Gone-Beyond-Praj ... XWENT518EW


Also I am interested in any resources you would recommend.

Thanks
Best to get Gareth Sparham's 4 volume translation of Vimuktisena and Haribhadra's commentaries. No point in studying later Tibetan systems of this until one has studied that. Also, among Tibetan commentaries available in English, Tsongkhapa's is probably the best in terms of clarity of the translation. It is also translated by Spareham.

https://www.amazon.com/Abhisamayalamkar ... 7YVDNCMV4P

https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Garland-E ... N4002R6PX2
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Malcolm wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:41 pm
Sennin wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:30 pm Hi,

I'm interested in the most influential sutras and commentaries of the Prajñāpāramitā teachings. I am leaning towards studying the Abhisamayalamkara.
https://www.amazon.com/Gone-Beyond-Praj ... XWENT518EW


Also I am interested in any resources you would recommend.

Thanks
Best to get Gareth Sparham's 4 volume translation of Vimuktisena and Haribhadra's commentaries. No point in studying later Tibetan systems of this until one has studied that. Also, among Tibetan commentaries available in English, Tsongkhapa's is probably the best in terms of clarity of the translation. It is also translated by Spareham.

https://www.amazon.com/Abhisamayalamkar ... 7YVDNCMV4P

https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Garland-E ... N4002R6PX2
Thank, just what I was looking for.
I am novice when it comes to these teachings so I appreciate getting the earliest most authoritative texts.
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Well, there's the two-volume Kagyu commentary set which you linked one of, then there's Groundless paths which contains commentaries from the Nyingma tradition. Other than that there's Sparham's 4 volume set Abhisamayalamkara with Vritti by Arya Vimuktisena and Aloka by Haribhadra. Sparham has also translated Tsongkhapa's commentary of the Vritti and the Aloka, in 4 volumes, called Golden Garland of Eloquence.

Links for those books here:

Abhisamayalamkara with Vritti by Arya Vimuktisena and Haribhadra's Aloka, (Sparham):
Vol.1: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875730116/
Vol.2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875730124/
Vol.3: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875730132/
Vol.4: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875730140/

Golden Garland of Eloquence by Tsongkhapa, (Sparham):
Vol.1: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875730159/
Vol.2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875730167/
Vol.3: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875730175/
Vol.4: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875730140/

Gone Beyond [Kagyu], (Brunnhölzl):
Vol.1: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1559393564/
Vol.2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1559393572/

Groundless Paths [Nyingma], (Brunnhölzl):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1559393750/

Edit: I see Malcolm posted before me :)
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Norwegian wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:57 pm Well, there's the two-volume Kagyu commentary set which you linked one of, then there's Groundless paths which contains commentaries from the Nyingma tradition.
Groundless Paths [Nyingma], (Brunnhölzl):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1559393750/
Thank you. I was unaware of the Nyingma commentary.
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Sennin wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:07 pmThank you. I was unaware of the Nyingma commentary.
Paltrul's is mostly a slightly edited down version of Tsongkhapa's, from what I recall.
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Losal Samten wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:22 pm
Sennin wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:07 pmThank you. I was unaware of the Nyingma commentary.
Paltrul's is mostly a slightly edited down version of Tsongkhapa's, from what I recall.
I see. I'm going to study Vol.I of the Sparham translation; and if I can 'really, really' get into it will continue with all the volumes and move towards the Tibetan commentaries.
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Losal Samten wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:22 pm
Sennin wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:07 pmThank you. I was unaware of the Nyingma commentary.
Paltrul's is mostly a slightly edited down version of Tsongkhapa's, from what I recall.
Yes, for the most part. Tsongkhapa's commentary is quite representative of the Sakya tradition coming from Yag ston, who was the pre-eminant commentator on this text in Tibet. His commentary is in eight volumes.
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Malcolm wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:41 pm
Sennin wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:30 pm Hi,

I'm interested in the most influential sutras and commentaries of the Prajñāpāramitā teachings. I am leaning towards studying the Abhisamayalamkara.
https://www.amazon.com/Gone-Beyond-Praj ... XWENT518EW


Also I am interested in any resources you would recommend.

Thanks
Best to get Gareth Sparham's 4 volume translation of Vimuktisena and Haribhadra's commentaries. No point in studying later Tibetan systems of this until one has studied that. Also, among Tibetan commentaries available in English, Tsongkhapa's is probably the best in terms of clarity of the translation. It is also translated by Spareham.

https://www.amazon.com/Abhisamayalamkar ... 7YVDNCMV4P
I ordered this. I don't understand it. Is it easier for native English speakers? Is Golden Garland of Eloquence easier? How to get enough language skills?
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A Preliminary to the Explanation of the Prajñāpāramitā –
Founders of Traditions, Explanatory Sūtras, Ways of Commenting, etc. by Dzogchen Khenpo Tsöndrü

http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-mas ... liminaries

http://www.lotsawahouse.org/topics/prajnaparamita/
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Not certain if it's what you are looking for, but "Center of the Sunlit Sky" by Brunnholzl is an amazing book.
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I thought it said that Dignaga wrote Vanquishing Ham.
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pael wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 9:21 am
Malcolm wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:41 pm
Sennin wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:30 pm Hi,

I'm interested in the most influential sutras and commentaries of the Prajñāpāramitā teachings. I am leaning towards studying the Abhisamayalamkara.
https://www.amazon.com/Gone-Beyond-Praj ... XWENT518EW


Also I am interested in any resources you would recommend.

Thanks
Best to get Gareth Sparham's 4 volume translation of Vimuktisena and Haribhadra's commentaries. No point in studying later Tibetan systems of this until one has studied that. Also, among Tibetan commentaries available in English, Tsongkhapa's is probably the best in terms of clarity of the translation. It is also translated by Spareham.

https://www.amazon.com/Abhisamayalamkar ... 7YVDNCMV4P
I ordered this. I don't understand it. Is it easier for native English speakers? Is Golden Garland of Eloquence easier? How to get enough language skills?
I haven't finished it yet, even so after previewing the later commentaries I still prefer this one.
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UMA-Tibet has some material for studying the Abhisamayalamkara:
http://www.uma-tibet.org/index-2.html#
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pael wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 9:21 am I ordered this. I don't understand it. Is it easier for native English speakers? Is Golden Garland of Eloquence easier? How to get enough language skills?
Hi Pael,  
Even for a native english speaker such a text would be impossible to understand without proper familiarity with "Dharma Scholastic Jargon".  
If this is your case, you may want to spend some time studying Mipham's Gateway To Knowledge first, or you dive directly in Vasubhandu's Abhidharmakośa.
Cheers
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