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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Malcolm » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:36 pm

The Cicada wrote:
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I am related to all Native American men on both continents.
My late paternal grandmother, like many Anglo-Americans, claimed to be part Native American. Cherokee, IIRC. Claims of Native American ancestry are fairly common in the States by people of whatever stock. ...When it comes to bragging about it, however, this takes the proverbial cake.

:lol:
Well, it is mostly surprising because there are no Indians in the woodpile in our family story.

Anyway, it is branch L232
The frequency of the lineage in Europe is highest in Scandinavian countries. It is 4 to 5 percent of male lineages in Iceland and Norway. It is about 6 percent of the male population in Sweden. The frequency across most of the rest of Europe is low and seldom reaches above 1 percent.

In the Americas, where it was a founding lineage, most pre-Columbian males are from this line. In Mexico, it is 82 to 91 percent of male lineages. It is 83 to 98 percent of the male population of Panama. In Greenland, it is over 80 percent of male lineages.
Be nice to me, I am your cousin. :-)
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Malcolm » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:37 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:30 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:55 pm
MiphamFan wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:44 pm
How much Neanderthal DNA do you all have?
1.3 percent. People call me "blond," but I am really a redhead.
Which test shows that Neanderthal element up?
Actually, it is higher, 1.5. I guess the max is 5%.
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The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
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One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Mantrik » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:48 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:37 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:30 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:55 pm


1.3 percent. People call me "blond," but I am really a redhead.
Which test shows that Neanderthal element up?
Actually, it is higher, 1.5. I guess the max is 5%.
Was it a separate test, or in there with the data on geographical origins? Some companies seem to go into far more detail than others.
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Malcolm » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:53 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:48 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:37 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:30 pm


Which test shows that Neanderthal element up?
Actually, it is higher, 1.5. I guess the max is 5%.
Was it a separate test, or in there with the data on geographical origins? Some companies seem to go into far more detail than others.

I did the Geno thing like Cone.
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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Mantrik » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:56 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:53 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:48 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:37 pm


Actually, it is higher, 1.5. I guess the max is 5%.
Was it a separate test, or in there with the data on geographical origins? Some companies seem to go into far more detail than others.

I did the Geno thing like Cone.
Interesting, thanks. I wonder how many forms of DNA testing there are.
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by cyril » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:57 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:09 am
So, I had my DNA ancestry test done as a birthday present recently.

Armed with the results and my family tree I can now confirm that I am mostly Irish (from around Tipperary, rural poor) almost a third Austrian (Vienna, bastard royalty), about a fifth English (Yorkshire), and the rest mostly Scandinavian/NW Russia (no clue why, except the Vikings maybe).


But how do they figure this percentage ancestry?
When I did my DNA test (through National Genographics, about 10 years ago), they only provided your Y-dna and mt-dna haplogroups which you could subsequently match against various ethnic groups for frequency. So, best case scenario, you could only conclude you are half this and half that.
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by conebeckham » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:57 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:02 pm
conebeckham wrote:
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I'm awaiting results from LivingDNA.com, myself. Given my last name, and fairly extensive research on my mother's side (maiden name Lewin), it's a sure bet most of me is British/English. Definitely some German in there, whether Angle, Saxon or whatnot. LivingDNA breaks down the British Isles into more regions than any other test, which is why I chose them. My family lore has it that "Lewin" may be originally Welsh, Llewellyn, or something....but it could also be Leofwine, Anglo Saxon.

I anticipate some Native American, as well, given the family lore....Wampanoag, and possibly Cherokee, not that the test will tell me any of that.

Several of my Tibetan friends have had theirs done, and of course Mongolian figures in their DNA...but interestingly there's Native American markers in a few....also Korean and Japanese!
The acid test for English Beckham blood is undeniably the ability to play soccer and speak in a high pitched voice, but not necessarily at the same time. You can fake the latter after repeated scrotal impact, which may require a football or a Spice Girl.
I will fake it, no need for full contact groinal impact, thanks. As you likely know, there are two towns in Norfolk--Beckham and West Beckham, if I recall. I am Far West Beckham, of course...these things being relative.

Mantrik wrote:You may be assured of Welsh ancestry if you can complete an entire sentence without vowels but not without 4 pints of warm beer and singing 'Bread of Heaven' at the end. If it proves to be so, you are required to change your name to Dai and add a suitable suffix, so people can call you 'Dai the Bass' .

I know these things as I have enough Yorkshire blood always to be right about everything. Aye, lad. :)
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by DNS » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:10 pm

Ashkenazi Jew, German, Dutch, Russian, Arab, North African (in that order).
Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:09 am
I just wondered if others have had the test done and what it means to them.
I like the tests. It shows how we're all inter-connected genetically and that there is no pure race.

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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Queequeg » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:13 pm

cyril wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:57 pm
But how do they figure this percentage ancestry?
When I did my DNA test (through National Genographics, about 10 years ago), they only provided your Y-dna and mt-dna haplogroups which you could subsequently match against various ethnic groups for frequency. So, best case scenario, you could only conclude you are half this and half that.
You can probably log back into NG and get updated info. I believe that's part of their deal, that they'll continually update.
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Queequeg » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:15 pm

DNS wrote:
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It shows how we're all inter-connected genetically and that there is no pure race.
Recently read an article describing the hand wringing among alt right boobs who discover heritage they've avowed to hate. You can imagine, it really hurts when they find out they're Jewish or black. Idiots.
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Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

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Post by Mantrik » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:19 pm

Queequeg wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:15 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:10 pm
It shows how we're all inter-connected genetically and that there is no pure race.
Recently read an article describing the hand wringing among alt right boobs who discover heritage they've avowed to hate. You can imagine, it really hurts when they find out they're Jewish or black. Idiots.
Yes, I've forgotten which UK white racist group's leader took a DNA test and discovered a significant black ancestry.
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Queequeg » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:29 pm

Mantrik wrote:
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Yes, I've forgotten which UK white racist group's leader took a DNA test and discovered a significant black ancestry.
NSFW:
http://www.comedycentral.co.uk/chappell ... uncensored
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Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

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Queequeg wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:29 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:19 pm
Yes, I've forgotten which UK white racist group's leader took a DNA test and discovered a significant black ancestry.
NSFW:
http://www.comedycentral.co.uk/chappell ... uncensored
lol :)
Yes, it was a bit like that. One of them was Garry Bushell who found he was 8% african in a documentary named after its intention to debunk that anyone was '100% English'.
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by TharpaChodron » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:13 am

I took the Ancestry.com one, it doesn't seem as in depth as these other tests. The only surprise I got was that I'm only about 15% Iberian, since my family on my dad's side are 100% from Cuba. My father always said we were Spanish, Basque and French?! But my test showed about as much Mediterranean (Greek/Italian) as Spanish DNA. So, hi cousin Greg. :)

I'm mostly Irish, British and Scandinavian on my mom's side.

Oh, and I have a dash of African (North Africa, 2%) which I am claiming, gladly.

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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Malcolm » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:16 am

Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:19 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:15 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:10 pm
It shows how we're all inter-connected genetically and that there is no pure race.
Recently read an article describing the hand wringing among alt right boobs who discover heritage they've avowed to hate. You can imagine, it really hurts when they find out they're Jewish or black. Idiots.
Yes, I've forgotten which UK white racist group's leader took a DNA test and discovered a significant black ancestry.
In reality of course, all of our distant ancestors were black.
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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by amanitamusc » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:45 am

Malcolm wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:16 am
Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:19 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:15 pm


Recently read an article describing the hand wringing among alt right boobs who discover heritage they've avowed to hate. You can imagine, it really hurts when they find out they're Jewish or black. Idiots.
Yes, I've forgotten which UK white racist group's leader took a DNA test and discovered a significant black ancestry.
In reality of course, all of our distant ancestors were black.
Are you saying Adam and Eve were black? :tongue:

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Malcolm wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:16 am
Mantrik wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:19 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:15 pm


Recently read an article describing the hand wringing among alt right boobs who discover heritage they've avowed to hate. You can imagine, it really hurts when they find out they're Jewish or black. Idiots.
Yes, I've forgotten which UK white racist group's leader took a DNA test and discovered a significant black ancestry.
In reality of course, all of our distant ancestors were black.
Isn't there some doubt now about the 'all migrated from Africa' theory?

Next you'll be telling me Jesus, the Pharaohs, Shakyamuni and Mohammad weren't white either...but I won't believe you because on the films they are all white except Mohammed when he's a baddie.

Don't you just love it when Christians ask you why you are following a foreign religion? lol :)
Heppened to me a few days ago with a Catholic from Slovakia. The irony was lost on them.
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Mantrik » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:31 am

TharpaChodron wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:13 am
I took the Ancestry.com one, it doesn't seem as in depth as these other tests. The only surprise I got was that I'm only about 15% Iberian, since my family on my dad's side are 100% from Cuba. My father always said we were Spanish, Basque and French?! But my test showed about as much Mediterranean (Greek/Italian) as Spanish DNA. So, hi cousin Greg. :)

I'm mostly Irish, British and Scandinavian on my mom's side.

Oh, and I have a dash of African (North Africa, 2%) which I am claiming, gladly.
That's the one I took - well, ancestry.co.uk, which I assume is the same company and labs.
My results were clairifed a lot by the family tree I had built up on their website, which made all the difference. Surnames also helped, and those on their database with very close DNA matches also have shared surnames in their past.

My wife's family literally moved a couple of streets over the last few hundred years, but of course immigration and invasion of the UK makes 'place of origin' less reliable. My side of the family travelled all over the world so once the database becomes global I expect to find a few more distant cousins.
I have 3% Iberian and 2% Italy/Greece so very few links with warmer climes - none so far on the family tree.
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Mantrik » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:15 am

gedmatch.com

GED MATCH accepts uploaded data files from several DNA companies and gives you a breakdown including things like Neanderthal .

It is free and only needs an email address and zipped or text file etc.
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Re: DNA TESTS

Post by Lobsang Chojor » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:43 am

I haven't done a DNA test yet but I'd be interested to do one in the future.

I already know that on my mother's side of the family, my great grandmother traced the family tree, and traced back the Beattie family is Scottish and English (linked by different reiver families) and can be traced further back to the Vikings.
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