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is a home made statue acceptable?
Hi everyone,
I have 3 large buddha statues at home and recently I have been wanting to have a female presence on my shrine table. I am only beginning to understand the role kwan yin has and I have decided to add her to my shrine. I don't want a tiny statue as it would look odd next to my very large buddha statues so I've been looking at similar sized kwan yin statues online, very eye watering prices attached to them ranging from $399 to $799 for a 16" figure. So I was thinking about sculpting my own, I'm no artist but I did dabble with sculpting in clay when I was younger. Is it ok to put a homemade image on a shrine table is it disrespectful?
I have 3 large buddha statues at home and recently I have been wanting to have a female presence on my shrine table. I am only beginning to understand the role kwan yin has and I have decided to add her to my shrine. I don't want a tiny statue as it would look odd next to my very large buddha statues so I've been looking at similar sized kwan yin statues online, very eye watering prices attached to them ranging from $399 to $799 for a 16" figure. So I was thinking about sculpting my own, I'm no artist but I did dabble with sculpting in clay when I was younger. Is it ok to put a homemade image on a shrine table is it disrespectful?
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Sure it's okay, why wouldn't it be?gingercatni wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 10:08 pm Hi everyone,
I have 3 large buddha statues at home and recently I have been wanting to have a female presence on my shrine table. I am only beginning to understand the role kwan yin has and I have decided to add her to my shrine. I don't want a tiny statue as it would look odd next to my very large buddha statues so I've been looking at similar sized kwan yin statues online, very eye watering prices attached to them ranging from $399 to $799 for a 16" figure. So I was thinking about sculpting my own, I'm no artist but I did dabble with sculpting in clay when I was younger. Is it ok to put a homemade image on a shrine table is it disrespectful?
Kevin...
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I thought they had to be produced in a certai way, my buddhas have seals at the bottom of them. When I finally get round to making kwan yin I'll post some pictures!:)Virgo wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 10:12 pmSure it's okay, why wouldn't it be?gingercatni wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 10:08 pm Hi everyone,
I have 3 large buddha statues at home and recently I have been wanting to have a female presence on my shrine table. I am only beginning to understand the role kwan yin has and I have decided to add her to my shrine. I don't want a tiny statue as it would look odd next to my very large buddha statues so I've been looking at similar sized kwan yin statues online, very eye watering prices attached to them ranging from $399 to $799 for a 16" figure. So I was thinking about sculpting my own, I'm no artist but I did dabble with sculpting in clay when I was younger. Is it ok to put a homemade image on a shrine table is it disrespectful?
Kevin...
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There are certain traditional standards, but that is more because art was taught in more of a scientific and very specific and technical way in certain Eastern traditions, more so than it was in Western traditions. It is really not necessary to worry about all the proportions being exactly correct and so on. The Buddhas certainly will not be offended. Of course, they wouldn't mind if you did it the other way either.gingercatni wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 10:21 pm
I thought they had to be produced in a certai way, my buddhas have seals at the bottom of them. When I finally get round to making kwan yin I'll post some pictures!:)
We would love to see pics.
Kevin...
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The Lamrim teachings say: firstly, Buddha statues cannot be judged by outward appearance. Every statue is worth the due respect.
And secondly, it is a very meritious deed to make a statue or paint a picture of a Buddha or a diety.
And secondly, it is a very meritious deed to make a statue or paint a picture of a Buddha or a diety.
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I agree, it is far much significant, meritorious.
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
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In general, this is s bad idea.
gingercatni wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 10:08 pm Hi everyone,
I have 3 large buddha statues at home and recently I have been wanting to have a female presence on my shrine table. I am only beginning to understand the role kwan yin has and I have decided to add her to my shrine. I don't want a tiny statue as it would look odd next to my very large buddha statues so I've been looking at similar sized kwan yin statues online, very eye watering prices attached to them ranging from $399 to $799 for a 16" figure. So I was thinking about sculpting my own, I'm no artist but I did dabble with sculpting in clay when I was younger. Is it ok to put a homemade image on a shrine table is it disrespectful?
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It is very demeritorious to make images of the Buddha, etc., that do not correspond to the proper proportions.
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I have occasionally bought large bronze statues from Chinese sellers on Ebay. Not only were they incredibly cheap, they actually arrived and were good quality.gingercatni wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 10:08 pm Hi everyone,
I have 3 large buddha statues at home and recently I have been wanting to have a female presence on my shrine table. I am only beginning to understand the role kwan yin has and I have decided to add her to my shrine. I don't want a tiny statue as it would look odd next to my very large buddha statues so I've been looking at similar sized kwan yin statues online, very eye watering prices attached to them ranging from $399 to $799 for a 16" figure. So I was thinking about sculpting my own, I'm no artist but I did dabble with sculpting in clay when I was younger. Is it ok to put a homemade image on a shrine table is it disrespectful?
But they are just lumps of metal until properly filled etc. and this would be true with a home made one I guess. A local dharma centre would probably fill the statue for a small donation.
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Hi Ginger, I apologize for giving you bad information. I would recommend following Malcolm's advice, as he is a learned and respected teacher. His advice is always very good.gingercatni wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 10:08 pm Hi everyone,
I have 3 large buddha statues at home and recently I have been wanting to have a female presence on my shrine table. I am only beginning to understand the role kwan yin has and I have decided to add her to my shrine. I don't want a tiny statue as it would look odd next to my very large buddha statues so I've been looking at similar sized kwan yin statues online, very eye watering prices attached to them ranging from $399 to $799 for a 16" figure. So I was thinking about sculpting my own, I'm no artist but I did dabble with sculpting in clay when I was younger. Is it ok to put a homemade image on a shrine table is it disrespectful?
Thank you,
Kevin...
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As gingercatni is a Theravada Buddhist on a bit of a quest to find if Pure Land would be fruitful, would Tibetan statue proportions, fillings etc. be the only meritorious ones to follow, or are those of other traditions acceptable?
Kwan Yin offers quite a range of statuary considered proper in different traditions.
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Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
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I remember there is a sutra with regards to this matter.
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It's most easy to find prove about the merits of making statues. Here you go:liuzg150181 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 2:30 amI remember there is a sutra with regards to this matter.
”The Benefits of Making Statues” : http://www.lamayeshe.com/article/benefi ... ng-statues
"The most powerful merit one can accumulate, and accumulate so easily, is in relation to holy objects of Buddha. By making statues of Buddha and making offerings to statues of Buddha, one accumulates infinite, inconceivable merit that immediately becomes a cause of enlightenment."
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The sutra I had in mind mentioned the protocols as to how to make buddha statues.Ayu wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:17 amIt's most easy to find prove about the merits of making statues. Here you go:liuzg150181 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 2:30 amI remember there is a sutra with regards to this matter.
”The Benefits of Making Statues” : http://www.lamayeshe.com/article/benefi ... ng-statues
"The most powerful merit one can accumulate, and accumulate so easily, is in relation to holy objects of Buddha. By making statues of Buddha and making offerings to statues of Buddha, one accumulates infinite, inconceivable merit that immediately becomes a cause of enlightenment."
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Whist all this advice may be wonderful, I fear it is irrelevant because the OP is a Theravada practitioner flirting with Pure Land and NOT A VAJRAYANA practitioner, according to their previous posts.
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http://www.khyung.com ཁྲོཾ
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
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Found it,but only the Chinese title 佛说造像量度经:Sādhaka wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:47 amliuzg150181 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:42 amThe sutra I had in mind mentioned the protocols as to how to make buddha statues.Ayu wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:17 am
It's most easy to find prove about the merits of making statues. Here you go:
”The Benefits of Making Statues” : http://www.lamayeshe.com/article/benefi ... ng-statues
"The most powerful merit one can accumulate, and accumulate so easily, is in relation to holy objects of Buddha. By making statues of Buddha and making offerings to statues of Buddha, one accumulates infinite, inconceivable merit that immediately becomes a cause of enlightenment."
That would be useful to study.
What Malcolm wrote above is right.
Making Buddha statues without these instructions, would be like people “making Mandalas” of their own whim which Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche mentions sometimes.
http://www.fjfoxiang.com/fo-zhao-xiang/1544.html
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So, it depends on which tradition we are talking about.
In Vajrayana, making statues is a wonderful thing. Tsatsa making is even a practice.
And it sounds rather like a joke, if Buddhists have statues everywhere, but those who made them are doomed? I fail to understand the intention of this teaching that forbids making statues. Sounds rather absurd to me. But I can't judge it, because I can't read Chinese.
In Vajrayana, making statues is a wonderful thing. Tsatsa making is even a practice.
And it sounds rather like a joke, if Buddhists have statues everywhere, but those who made them are doomed? I fail to understand the intention of this teaching that forbids making statues. Sounds rather absurd to me. But I can't judge it, because I can't read Chinese.
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The Chinese articles merely states the standard by which buddha statues should be created, not that one would go to lower realm for not adhering to the standard. Treat it more like ISO9002 instead of penal law.Ayu wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:15 pm So, it depends on which tradition we are talking about.
In Vajrayana, making statues is a wonderful thing. Tsatsa making is even a practice.
And it sounds rather like a joke, if Buddhists have statues everywhere, but those who made them are doomed? I fail to understand the intention of this teaching that forbids making statues. Sounds rather absurd to me. But I can't judge it, because I can't read Chinese.
Otherwise, what do we make of this?