Online Ngondro programs
Online Ngondro programs
I already know of the programs by Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche (though not really a ngondro program as it is much longer and includes other things), and Mingyur Rinpoche. I was wondering if there are also other good ngondro programs of this kind.
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Re: Online Ngondro programs
I think you can do most of this program: https://dudjomtersarngondro.com/ online.
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Ah yes, I saw that earlier, thanks. By online I mean some kind of online support, not necessarily practicing at the computer like with Tara's Triple Excellence.dzogchungpa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:53 pm I think you can do most of this program: https://dudjomtersarngondro.com/ online.
Re: Online Ngondro programs
There is also ngondrogar which is a project of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche - I'm not sure about the details and if they are still accepting new students, but here is the site: http://www.ngondrogar.org/en/registration/overview
Re: Online Ngondro programs
There is a Ngondro in the Tripple Excellence program. It comes before the Highest Yoga Tantra practice.
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Re: Online Ngondro programs
This is also a very good program, I recommend it.deff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:33 pm There is also ngondrogar which is a project of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche - I'm not sure about the details and if they are still accepting new students, but here is the site: http://www.ngondrogar.org/en/registration/overview
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: Online Ngondro programs
Which Ngondro are you looking to practice?
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Re: Online Ngondro programs
Thanks, this looks interesting, though there are not really any details on how it works exactly. I suppose there is just material available online and you can communicate with others.deff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:33 pm There is also ngondrogar which is a project of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche - I'm not sure about the details and if they are still accepting new students, but here is the site: http://www.ngondrogar.org/en/registration/overview
Yes, I meant that it also has many other things. I did the first part of the program last year. I am considering continuing, but I am not sure as I don't really like having to practice along with the computer, wearing headphones etc. Another factor is that the second excellence is extremely long, though that is not necessarily bad.
Re: Online Ngondro programs
I have not decided yet. Ideally a nyingma ngondro but it depends more on the circumstances.
Re: Online Ngondro programs
No, there are also webinars and instructors you can email.Aryjna wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:46 amThanks, this looks interesting, though there are not really any details on how it works exactly. I suppose there is just material available online and you can communicate with others.deff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:33 pm There is also ngondrogar which is a project of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche - I'm not sure about the details and if they are still accepting new students, but here is the site: http://www.ngondrogar.org/en/registration/overview
Yes, I felt the same (computer and headphones), but I have many friends that do this program and they say it gets very good.Aryjna wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:46 amYes, I meant that it also has many other things. I did the first part of the program last year. I am considering continuing, but I am not sure as I don't really like having to practice along with the computer, wearing headphones etc. Another factor is that the second excellence is extremely long, though that is not necessarily bad.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Online Ngondro programs
I may continue with this program, but I'm not sure yet. I hope I will be able to attend a retreat with Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche this summer.heart wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:41 amNo, there are also webinars and instructors you can email.Aryjna wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:46 amThanks, this looks interesting, though there are not really any details on how it works exactly. I suppose there is just material available online and you can communicate with others.deff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:33 pm There is also ngondrogar which is a project of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche - I'm not sure about the details and if they are still accepting new students, but here is the site: http://www.ngondrogar.org/en/registration/overview
Yes, I felt the same (computer and headphones), but I have many friends that do this program and they say it gets very good.Aryjna wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:46 amYes, I meant that it also has many other things. I did the first part of the program last year. I am considering continuing, but I am not sure as I don't really like having to practice along with the computer, wearing headphones etc. Another factor is that the second excellence is extremely long, though that is not necessarily bad.
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Re: Online Ngondro programs
I will be in Austria in the beginning of August for the retreat there.Aryjna wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:25 pmI may continue with this program, but I'm not sure yet. I hope I will be able to attend a retreat with Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche this summer.heart wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:41 amNo, there are also webinars and instructors you can email.
Yes, I felt the same (computer and headphones), but I have many friends that do this program and they say it gets very good.Aryjna wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:46 am
Yes, I meant that it also has many other things. I did the first part of the program last year. I am considering continuing, but I am not sure as I don't really like having to practice along with the computer, wearing headphones etc. Another factor is that the second excellence is extremely long, though that is not necessarily bad.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Online Ngondro programs
If all goes well, I want to attend the UK retreat. It seems there is already a detailed schedule for Austria but not for the UK.
Re: Online Ngondro programs
In UK Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche will teach on the text by Karma Chagme" Union of mahamudra and dzogchen"also on The Aspiration prayer of Samantabhadra as well as giving a number of empowerments(also refuge).
With regards to online ngondro, Phakchok Rinpoche does the following course.
https://samyeinstitute.org/course/tukdr ... undations/
Re: Online Ngondro programs
Thanks, this looks good too.philji wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:14 pmIn UK Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche will teach on the text by Karma Chagme" Union of mahamudra and dzogchen"also on The Aspiration prayer of Samantabhadra as well as giving a number of empowerments(also refuge).
With regards to online ngondro, Phakchok Rinpoche does the following course.
https://samyeinstitute.org/course/tukdr ... undations/
I have read the general information about the retreat, but I meant a more detailed schedule like on the Gomde Austria website.
Re: Online Ngondro programs
Having attended Chokyi Nyima's retreats every year at Gomde UK I would think that the program will be very similar.Aryjna wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:25 pmThanks, this looks good too.philji wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:14 pmIn UK Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche will teach on the text by Karma Chagme" Union of mahamudra and dzogchen"also on The Aspiration prayer of Samantabhadra as well as giving a number of empowerments(also refuge).
With regards to online ngondro, Phakchok Rinpoche does the following course.
https://samyeinstitute.org/course/tukdr ... undations/
I have read the general information about the retreat, but I meant a more detailed schedule like on the Gomde Austria website.
A morning program of meditation
Rinpoche will teach every morninv.
Lama Tenzin or Lama Oser will teach in afternoon.
possibly evening practice.
... There will be a one day Ngakso puja and Rinpoche will somehow have to manifest some free time for empowerment.
All in all... a packed program..... well worth attending.
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Sounds good.philji wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:31 pmHaving attended Chokyi Nyima's retreats every year at Gomde UK I would think that the program will be very similar.Aryjna wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:25 pmThanks, this looks good too.philji wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:14 pm
In UK Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche will teach on the text by Karma Chagme" Union of mahamudra and dzogchen"also on The Aspiration prayer of Samantabhadra as well as giving a number of empowerments(also refuge).
With regards to online ngondro, Phakchok Rinpoche does the following course.
https://samyeinstitute.org/course/tukdr ... undations/
I have read the general information about the retreat, but I meant a more detailed schedule like on the Gomde Austria website.
A morning program of meditation
Rinpoche will teach every morninv.
Lama Tenzin or Lama Oser will teach in afternoon.
possibly evening practice.
... There will be a one day Ngakso puja and Rinpoche will somehow have to manifest some free time for empowerment.
All in all... a packed program..... well worth attending.
Re: Online Ngondro programs
PM'd...Aryjna wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:46 am Yes, I meant that it also has many other things. I did the first part of the program last year. I am considering continuing, but I am not sure as I don't really like having to practice along with the computer, wearing headphones etc. Another factor is that the second excellence is extremely long, though that is not necessarily bad.
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on ngondrogar site there is a comparison of topics for longchen nyingthig and chetsün nyingthig ngöndros.
what i found intriguing is that chetsün nyingthig one has different set of preliminary thoughts:
1. Impermanence
2. Deceptive nature of pleasure
3. Futility of our projects
4. Futility of life in general
5. The irreversibility of liberation
6. The value of the guru's instruction
7. Training in non-thought samadhi
frankly, i feel that these thoughts click with me much better than more common ones (precious human rebirth, impermanence, karma, suffering of samsara), especially 2,3,4. i don't know if it's ok to ask as i don't have wang/lung for chetsün nyingthig ngöndro, but i'd like to know more about that. is it possible to share the part of chetsün nyingthig ngöndro about these thoughts without samaya violation (or the whole text)?
what i found intriguing is that chetsün nyingthig one has different set of preliminary thoughts:
1. Impermanence
2. Deceptive nature of pleasure
3. Futility of our projects
4. Futility of life in general
5. The irreversibility of liberation
6. The value of the guru's instruction
7. Training in non-thought samadhi
frankly, i feel that these thoughts click with me much better than more common ones (precious human rebirth, impermanence, karma, suffering of samsara), especially 2,3,4. i don't know if it's ok to ask as i don't have wang/lung for chetsün nyingthig ngöndro, but i'd like to know more about that. is it possible to share the part of chetsün nyingthig ngöndro about these thoughts without samaya violation (or the whole text)?
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Re: Online Ngondro programs
Cartland Dahl translated Jigme lingpa commentary on these.yagmort wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:14 pm on ngondrogar site there is a comparison of topics for longchen nyingthig and chetsün nyingthig ngöndros.
what i found intriguing is that chetsün nyingthig one has different set of preliminary thoughts:
1. Impermanence
2. Deceptive nature of pleasure
3. Futility of our projects
4. Futility of life in general
5. The irreversibility of liberation
6. The value of the guru's instruction
7. Training in non-thought samadhi
frankly, i feel that these thoughts click with me much better than more common ones (precious human rebirth, impermanence, karma, suffering of samsara), especially 2,3,4. i don't know if it's ok to ask as i don't have wang/lung for chetsün nyingthig ngöndro, but i'd like to know more about that. is it possible to share the part of chetsün nyingthig ngöndro about these thoughts without samaya violation (or the whole text)?