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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Karma Dondrup Tashi » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:19 am

ford_truckin wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:27 pm
Amazing run by England. I thought they would of gotten knocked out in the earlier rounds. France will now defeat Croatia.
Please God. Please. If you exist, Coatia will win.

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Norwegian » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:21 am

Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:19 am
ford_truckin wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:27 pm
Amazing run by England. I thought they would of gotten knocked out in the earlier rounds. France will now defeat Croatia.
Please God. Please. If you exist, Coatia will win.
You're on the wrong forum for that kind of prayer...

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Karma Dondrup Tashi » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:23 am

Norwegian wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:21 am
You're on the wrong forum for that kind of prayer...
I know. But still, if Croatia wins I will sacrifice a goat to Ahura Mazda I don't care.

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by amanitamusc » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:18 am

ford_truckin wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:27 pm
Amazing run by England. I thought they would of gotten knocked out in the earlier rounds. France will now defeat Croatia.
Croatia will win 3-1 :twothumbsup:

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Karma_Yeshe » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:13 am

amanitamusc wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:18 am
ford_truckin wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:27 pm
Amazing run by England. I thought they would of gotten knocked out in the earlier rounds. France will now defeat Croatia.
Croatia will win 3-1 :twothumbsup:
Close. But not quite there ;)

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Simon E. » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:06 am

We will be backing Croatia in our house. And I would guess so will most of my countrymen.
Croatia have one of the greats of course in Modric. I hope the ref will be aware of the need to give him some protection.
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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Simon E. » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:21 am

Wayfarer wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:53 am
Simon E. wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:01 pm
Not Brits Wayfarer..English. :smile:
I suppose it's a distinction that eluded me, but it's hard to spot the difference from 15,000km away. :-)

And, yes, the English team did do really well, and also conducted themselves splendidly. The coach impressed, also.
:smile: Basically all English, Welsh, Scots, and Ulstermen are British Citizens.
But if you ask them whether they are British or E.W.S or U., most will tell you firmly that they are English, Welsh, Scottish or Ulstermen/women..
Each of the 'home nations' has a National football team. The Scots are languishing currently. But the Welsh were unlucky not to advance. They have the supremely gifted Gareth Bale and the excellent Robson-Kanu, and their manager is now Ryan Giggs formerly of Man. Utd under Alex Ferguson.
Ones to watch.
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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by shaunc » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:30 am

I'm an Aussie so don't really understand soccer at all but I'll be barracking for Croatia, it's in our DNA to support outsiders. At the moment they're 4-1 in the betting.

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Wayfarer » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:45 am

Actually I did know that Simon. I went to school in Scotland for a term or two, back in the day. The Scots were definitely, and defiantly, not English.

And, as an Aussie, I have at least some understanding of the roundball game now, by dint of having brought up two sons who both started in Under Six teams - and both still play. I wished I had had the chance as a kid, they made me play rugby and I hated it.
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Post by Simon E. » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:52 am

I played Rugby at school too. Quite enjoyed playing...but watching it bores me.
Soccer/football is my love.
But I will admit to liking Aussie Rules... :smile:
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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Wayfarer » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:45 am

Aussie rules can be a great game to watch live. The first game I was taken to, aged about twelve, it was a freezing but sparkling Sydney winter day, big crowd at the SCG. The thing that struck me was first the amazing athleticism of the ‘high marks’, and how fast the game moved around the ground. I have only been to a couple of games as an adult but will usually watch the Grand Final. But you have to be a Melbournian for it to be a religion, which it is to lots of them. :smile:
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Post by Simon E. » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:19 am

A great game. We don't get enough coverage of it on U.K. TV.
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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by PeterC » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:56 am

shaunc wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:30 am
I'm an Aussie so don't really understand soccer at all but I'll be barracking for Croatia, it's in our DNA to support outsiders. At the moment they're 4-1 in the betting.
Those were ridiculous odds. If world cup history teaches us anything, it is that at the critical moment, England will always lose.

That said, before the semi-finals I was holding out some hope for an England-Belgium final. A London-Brussels confrontation would have had great symbolic value. If recent performance is an indicator, England's captain would have got into a fight with other members of the team, and they would have scored a series of own goals while the Belgian side looked on in bemusement wondering when they were going to start playing seriously.

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by shaunc » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:04 am

PeterC wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:56 am
shaunc wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:30 am
I'm an Aussie so don't really understand soccer at all but I'll be barracking for Croatia, it's in our DNA to support outsiders. At the moment they're 4-1 in the betting.
Those were ridiculous odds. If world cup history teaches us anything, it is that at the critical moment, England will always lose.

That said, before the semi-finals I was holding out some hope for an England-Belgium final. A London-Brussels confrontation would have had great symbolic value. If recent performance is an indicator, England's captain would have got into a fight with other members of the team, and they would have scored a series of own goals while the Belgian side looked on in bemusement wondering when they were going to start playing seriously.
They've firmed slightly in the betting at 15-4
To win in extra time 12-1
To win with penalty 9-1
I probably should snap a bit of that up
Not bad prices for a 2 horse race.

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Wayfarer » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:36 am

I think while we're waiting for the action to start, and in light of England's honourable defeat, it might do us all good to watch the Philosopher's Football Game, again. I know it's old but it still gets a laugh out of me whenever I watch it.

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by PeterC » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:32 am

shaunc wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:04 am

They've firmed slightly in the betting at 15-4
To win in extra time 12-1
To win with penalty 9-1
I probably should snap a bit of that up
Not bad prices for a 2 horse race.
Hmm. 15-4 doesn't look too cheap. But an extra time win at 12-1 is interesting

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by Simon E. » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:52 am

PeterC wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:56 am
shaunc wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:30 am
I'm an Aussie so don't really understand soccer at all but I'll be barracking for Croatia, it's in our DNA to support outsiders. At the moment they're 4-1 in the betting.
Those were ridiculous odds. If world cup history teaches us anything, it is that at the critical moment, England will always lose.

That said, before the semi-finals I was holding out some hope for an England-Belgium final. A London-Brussels confrontation would have had great symbolic value. If recent performance is an indicator, England's captain would have got into a fight with other members of the team, and they would have scored a series of own goals while the Belgian side looked on in bemusement wondering when they were going to start playing seriously.
I think you need to look at your World Cup history again. Eight Nations have won the World Cup and England is among them.
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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by shaunc » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:01 am

:yinyang: 7
PeterC wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:32 am
shaunc wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:04 am

They've firmed slightly in the betting at 15-4
To win in extra time 12-1
To win with penalty 9-1
I probably should snap a bit of that up
Not bad prices for a 2 horse race.
Hmm. 15-4 doesn't look too cheap. But an extra time win at 12-1 is interesting
Yeah. I was thinking
$20 on extra time
$20 on penalties
$10 to win.

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by PeterC » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:11 am

Simon E. wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:52 am

I think you need to look at your World Cup history again. Eight Nations have won the World Cup and England is among them.
Once, yes. Uruguay has won it more. (Actually Uruguay was a serious team up to the 70s - it was good to see them do well this time.)

The problem with England is their almost unlimited capacity to disappoint. They give you a sliver of hope that perhaps, this year, finally...and then they crash and burn.

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Re: Football World Cup.

Post by PeterC » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:14 am

shaunc wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:01 am
:yinyang: 7
PeterC wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:32 am
shaunc wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:04 am

They've firmed slightly in the betting at 15-4
To win in extra time 12-1
To win with penalty 9-1
I probably should snap a bit of that up
Not bad prices for a 2 horse race.
Hmm. 15-4 doesn't look too cheap. But an extra time win at 12-1 is interesting
Yeah. I was thinking
$20 on extra time
$20 on penalties
$10 to win.
Might be worth looking at prices for France to win 2-0 or something, and perhaps doing that instead of the $10 to win as a hedge - the likely outcomes are either that Croatia come into the game tired and get rolled over by France, or that they hold France off and win a narrow victory

(I'm sure there's a sutra somewhere saying we shouldn't be having this conversation)

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