Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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Webcast over, on to Naga Puja, which is now in the evening as circumstances gave me that opportunity.
The Daily Practice book was mentioned on another thread and it is always a good one to go back to as a reminder that a couple of hours of rituals and the other 22 hours distracted is not much use.
So, doing my best to relax and integrate, including at night.
Some well-meaning words around on the web, but please don't take them to mean you should not feel upset or a range of other emotions. It is not a failure, and helps us remember about daily practice and working with the circumstances.
The Daily Practice book was mentioned on another thread and it is always a good one to go back to as a reminder that a couple of hours of rituals and the other 22 hours distracted is not much use.
So, doing my best to relax and integrate, including at night.
Some well-meaning words around on the web, but please don't take them to mean you should not feel upset or a range of other emotions. It is not a failure, and helps us remember about daily practice and working with the circumstances.
http://www.khyung.com ཁྲོཾ
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
The Webcast worked for you? And it was till now?
Tomorrow:
Norbunet wrote: 18th September - webcast practices from Merigar West
15:00 (GMT+2) GURUYOGA OF THE WHITE A
17:00 (GMT+2) GANAPUJA
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar
- Shabkar
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Not all, but the last part worked fine. It finished on time, and as it is now a 'Naga Positive' day I decided that would be a good way to continue.
Sorry, didn't mean to imply it had just finished, just that now I am going on to Naga Puja, a little reminder in case anyone else fancied doing so.
http://www.khyung.com ཁྲོཾ
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Haha it's nothing compared to the title of the email for tomorrow's webcast on Norbunet. I thought Rinpoche was back....
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar
- Shabkar
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Earlier in the thread it was reported that Shitro is being performed.
Does anyone know which Shitro is being performed and by whom?
Does anyone know which Shitro is being performed and by whom?
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Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Shitro when a Master dies?!?
Unusual.....
Doesn't make sense.
Unusual.....
Doesn't make sense.
Lost In Transmission
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They switched to Ganapuja soon. The Shitro is almost certainly Namcho, I don't recall another one (well there's Changchub Dorje's I guess but in Collective Practices it's Namcho).
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar
- Shabkar
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Which is the one related to Yangti? I recall a transmission in 2014 but don't remember which one.
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Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Especially when the master is still alive.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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Well, that's what his students here told me. They stated they will be doing a Zhitro for him(I think it was Anuyoga) and the Guru Yoga Ah.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
The webcast cut in and out for me, but reloading helps and is recommended by the webcast team. I greatly appreciated the opportunity for a collective ganapuja since there are no sangha members near me.
Everything I have heard is that we should do guru yoga and ganapuja, rather than Xitro.
Can a senior student answer: could rinpoche's present illness be due to samaya breakages of his disciples?
DS
Everything I have heard is that we should do guru yoga and ganapuja, rather than Xitro.
Can a senior student answer: could rinpoche's present illness be due to samaya breakages of his disciples?
DS
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Chögyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche
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Yes, in one of his books he specifically says this is wrong.
For those of us who can't make it to a ganapuja, is the medium thun the equivalent?
"Death's second name is 'omnipresent.' On the relative truth it seems we become separate. But on the absolute there is no separation." Lama Dawa
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
We should follow Rinpoches advice.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
I agree, and IMO the advice was pretty clear.
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when afflicted by disease
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when sad
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when suffering occurs
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when you are scared
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Meditate upon Bodhicitta when sad
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when suffering occurs
Meditate upon Bodhicitta when you are scared
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Shitro in this case is for purify our -we student's-samaya, not for the Buda. ChNN is perfectly fine, he can take care of himself.
it is better to do ganapuya, and behave.
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Why ganapuja?
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viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4052&start=5920#p465509
The Guru Yoga here is ChNNR's usage - being in the state of natural awareness.
This is what is called for when anyone is dying.
If you are distracted, then Shitro, or other practices as the DC websites suggest are fine.
Do your best.
Not an easy time.
The Guru Yoga here is ChNNR's usage - being in the state of natural awareness.
This is what is called for when anyone is dying.
If you are distracted, then Shitro, or other practices as the DC websites suggest are fine.
Do your best.
Not an easy time.
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
ShiTro is also for purifying... but not sooo good for broken samayas i think - there are better practices for thatjavier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:02 amShitro in this case is for purify our -we student's-samaya, not for the Buda. ChNN is perfectly fine, he can take care of himself.
it is better to do ganapuya, and behave.
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Yes, he took as an example a cheesy movie about Milarepa, where Mila says to the dying Marpa:
"once you helped me - now I can help you..."
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I believe it's because it contains the most practices for purifying samaya of any DC sadhana. The Ganapuja itself and also the 100-syllable Vajrasattva mantra. In the webcast from Merigar today, they did many repetitions of the brief Ganapuja text "RAM YAM KHAM OM Ā HŪM . . ." and of the Vajrasattva mantra.
Neither person nor skandha
but unstained wisdom is buddha.
In its knowing, ever serene—
I go for refuge therein.
but unstained wisdom is buddha.
In its knowing, ever serene—
I go for refuge therein.