Can Shikantaza be done "wrong", or is an attempt at it automatically successful?

Matylda
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Re: Can Shikantaza be done "wrong", or is an attempt at it automatically successful?

Post by Matylda » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:06 pm

humble.student wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:07 am
Matylda wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 7:40 am
His book was not available as a bestseller, it was knonwn in very small circle in fact. There are not many volumes left today. One may hardly get it in a few special buddhist bookstores in Japan were customers are mainly zen teachers or uni teachers. and the price is very high.
Hi Matylda, Do you mean the collected works 原坦山和尚全集 ? Do you know if this is still available anywhere?
I checked on internet, Japanese websites, and this title appearce like on amazon or kinouniya etc., but not available anywhere. One has to search for it untill it will be found finally. Some old Buddhist bookstores in Kanda/Tokyo or in Kyoto might have it as well.

I found another one https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%A6%85%E5%A ... 4893505882

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Re: Can Shikantaza be done "wrong", or is an attempt at it automatically successful?

Post by humble.student » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:33 pm

Matylda wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:06 pm

I checked on internet, Japanese websites, and this title appearce like on amazon or kinouniya etc., but not available anywhere. One has to search for it untill it will be found finally. Some old Buddhist bookstores in Kanda/Tokyo or in Kyoto might have it as well.
Thanks!

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Re: Can Shikantaza be done "wrong", or is an attempt at it automatically successful?

Post by Lillian » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:42 pm

humble.student wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:33 pm
Matylda wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:06 pm

I checked on internet, Japanese websites, and this title appearce like on amazon or kinouniya etc., but not available anywhere. One has to search for it untill it will be found finally. Some old Buddhist bookstores in Kanda/Tokyo or in Kyoto might have it as well.
Thanks!
There is a one to view online from the National Diet library in Japan. It is very old, in the public domain and free to view online. I sent the link to Aya, and he had some trouble. I think he will try to post it here soon. You can also try to look it up yourself at the government website. Lilly

https://dl.ndl.go.jp

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Re: Can Shikantaza be done "wrong", or is an attempt at it automatically successful?

Post by Lillian » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:53 pm

Here is the link I sent to Aya which he can't see to use, but it opens fine here on this old computer.

https://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/823 ... &__lang=en

The book was published in 1909, so a little older even than me!

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Re: Can Shikantaza be done "wrong", or is an attempt at it automatically successful?

Post by humble.student » Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:07 pm

Lillian wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:53 pm
Here is the link I sent to Aya which he can't see to use, but it opens fine here on this old computer.

https://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/823 ... &__lang=en

The book was published in 1909, so a little older even than me!
Thanks Lilly, that works fine for me as well.

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Re: Can Shikantaza be done "wrong", or is an attempt at it automatically successful?

Post by Matylda » Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:46 pm

Lillian wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:53 pm
Here is the link I sent to Aya which he can't see to use, but it opens fine here on this old computer.

https://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/823 ... &__lang=en

The book was published in 1909, so a little older even than me!
Great! thank you :)

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