Studying Nyingma

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by sangyey » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:49 pm

What Is Nyingma Gyubum? From my understanding it contains a compilation of Nyingma texts.

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by heart » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:22 am

sangyey wrote:What Is Nyingma Gyubum? From my understanding it contains a compilation of Nyingma texts.
http://www.rangjung.com/gl/Nyingma_Gyubum.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maha, Anu and Ati Tantras.

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by sangyey » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:12 pm

Excellent! Thank you Magnus.

I was also wondering if Longchenpa's Seven Treasuries are his principle or only works or if he is responsible for other texts or collections?

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Post by Paul » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:51 pm

sangyey wrote:Excellent! Thank you Magnus.

I was also wondering if Longchenpa's Seven Treasuries are his principle or only works or if he is responsible for other texts or collections?
http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... s_Writings" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:reading:
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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by sangyey » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:43 pm

And Jigme Lingpa's works.....?

:anjali:

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Post by sangyey » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:53 pm

Perhaps this is good.......


http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Jigme_Lingpa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by Paul » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:01 pm

sangyey wrote:And Jigme Lingpa's works.....?

:anjali:
I've read his "Ladder to Akanistha", which is in this book: http://www.wisdom-books.com/ProductDetail.asp?PID=16612" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Very good indeed (which isn't a surprise, really). Especially useful as completion stage information of this quality is hard to find.
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Post by heart » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:08 am

sangyey wrote:And Jigme Lingpa's works.....?

:anjali:
This is an interesting book although a bit scholarly but containing interesting translations; Approaching the Great Perfection: Simultaneous and Gradual Methods of Dzogchen Practice in the Longchen Nyingtig by Sam van Schaik
This is also very good; Gateway to the Great Perfection: A Guide to the Dzogchen Preliminaries by Cortland Dahl

and of course Deity, Mantra and Wisdom that Hayagriva mentioned before.

Then of course the complete Yeshe Lama is translated http://www.snowlionpub.com/html/product_9836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Virgo » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:47 pm

heart wrote: This is an interesting book although a bit scholarly but containing interesting translations; Approaching the Great Perfection: Simultaneous and Gradual Methods of Dzogchen Practice in the Longchen Nyingtig by Sam van Schaik
This is also very good; Gateway to the Great Perfection: A Guide to the Dzogchen Preliminaries by Cortland Dahl

and of course Deity, Mantra and Wisdom that Hayagriva mentioned before.

Then of course the complete Yeshe Lama is translated http://www.snowlionpub.com/html/product_9836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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You need the DI and the reading transmission though.

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Post by heart » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:15 pm

Virgo wrote:
heart wrote: This is an interesting book although a bit scholarly but containing interesting translations; Approaching the Great Perfection: Simultaneous and Gradual Methods of Dzogchen Practice in the Longchen Nyingtig by Sam van Schaik
This is also very good; Gateway to the Great Perfection: A Guide to the Dzogchen Preliminaries by Cortland Dahl

and of course Deity, Mantra and Wisdom that Hayagriva mentioned before.

Then of course the complete Yeshe Lama is translated http://www.snowlionpub.com/html/product_9836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

/magnus
You need the DI and the reading transmission though.

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Yes, that is true. But it is well worth to try to achieve because the text is very interesting.

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by Paul » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:12 pm

Is there such a book as "Center of the Sunlit Sky" presenting the intricacies of madhyamaka for the Nyingma lineage?
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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by sangyey » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:21 am

Do Nyingma's specifically follow Bhavavivika's works?

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Post by Silent Bob » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:53 am

Hayagriva wrote:Is there such a book as "Center of the Sunlit Sky" presenting the intricacies of madhyamaka for the Nyingma lineage?
Well, there's this: http://www.namsebangdzo.com/Mipam_on_Bu ... /15996.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In truth, I haven't read it, but translators I know and respect speak well of Mr Duckworth and his work. I don't know if there's anyone out there working with Nyingma texts whose scope is as inclusive as Karl Brunnholzl's is with Karma Kagyu material.

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by Pema Rigdzin » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:29 am

sangyey wrote:Do Nyingma's specifically follow Bhavavivika's works?
In my experience, in terms of Indian Madhyamaka shastras, Nyingmapas seem to focus on works like Chandrakirti's Madhyamakavatara (Entering the Middle Way) and Shantarakshita's Madhyamakalankara (Ornament of the Middle way).For the most part, though, it seems like they lean more towards relying on Tibetan commentaries on these Indian shastras by the likes of Longchenpa and Mipham Rinpoche. My experience in this area is somewhat limited, though.

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by Pema Rigdzin » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:33 am

Hayagriva wrote:Is there such a book as "Center of the Sunlit Sky" presenting the intricacies of madhyamaka for the Nyingma lineage?
There is a text published under this name, but it is about Madhyamaka according to the Kagyu tradition, not Nyingma.

*Oops, I think I misunderstood what you meant. I don't know of a Nyingma commentary presented as something like an analog to the text you mentioned, but you will definitely get the predominant Nyingma view in books like "Introduction to the Middle Way," which consists of Chandrakirti's Madhyamakavatara and Mipham Rinpoche's commentary on it.

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by Paul » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:41 am

Pema Rigdzin wrote:
Hayagriva wrote:Is there such a book as "Center of the Sunlit Sky" presenting the intricacies of madhyamaka for the Nyingma lineage?
There is a text published under this name, but it is about Madhyamaka according to the Kagyu tradition, not Nyingma.
You've misread me - I'm looking for a Nyingma book about madhyamaka that's as through as Center of the Sunlit Sky is for the Kagyu lineage.

Pema Rigdzin wrote:I don't know of a Nyingma commentary presented as something like an analog to the text you mentioned, but you will definitely get the predominant Nyingma view in books like "Introduction to the Middle Way," which consists of Chandrakirti's Madhyamakavatara and Mipham Rinpoche's commentary on it.
Thanks, I have that book. I've not read it in ages, so I'll dig it out again.

http://www.amazon.com/Mipam-Buddha-Natu ... d_sxp_f_pt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; looks ideal, although it's not cheap...

*edit* it is cheap at Namse Bangdzo.
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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by sangyey » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:46 am

Who do Nyingma's look to for their commentary on lojong? And on pramana?

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by Zenda » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:02 pm

I don't know if there is a specifically Nyingma approach to the seven points of mind training, but this book is very, very good:

Enlightened Courage: An Explanation of the Seven-Point Mind Training by Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche (http://www.snowlionpub.com/html/product_8736.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by sangyey » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:17 pm

Does anyone know where the most comprehensive treatment of the six perfections can be found in the Nyingma tradition?

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Re: Studying Nyingma

Post by heart » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:50 pm

sangyey wrote:Does anyone know where the most comprehensive treatment of the six perfections can be found in the Nyingma tradition?
I think you have to realize that the treatment of the various Mahayana tenets does not change so much between the various schools Sangey.

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