ronnewmexico wrote:Well recollection is not perfect.
I thought I recalled hearing this from Ram Dasses mouth himself, not read in a book or some such... many years ago(19 or so) ..but perhaps I have a faulted recollection or there were several incidents of this. or recollections of this?
If you were there however I will certainly cede this to my faulted recollection to every extent.
I was not there so I only report it as I heard it..and still that may be faulted by my recollection.
If from a book I could see reasons why they would not want to imply unknowing ingestion by another persons intention.
Certainly such would be a chargeable legal offense in many countries such as india perhaps..so I could see why I would not state such in a book...but perhaps you were there..?
Ram Dass has recounted this many times over the years. The account from Miracle of Love is as follows:
"In 1967 when I first came to India, I brought with me a supply of LSD, hoping to find someone who might understand more about these substances than we did in the West. When I had met Maharajji(Neem Karoli Baba), after some days the thought had crossed my mind that he would be a perfect person to ask.
The next day after having that thought, I was called to him and he asked me immediately, "Do you have a question?"
Of course, being before him was such a powerful experience that I had completely forgotten the question I had had in my mind the night before. So I looked stupid and said, "No, Maharajji, I have no question."
He appeared irritated and said, "Where is the medicine?"
I was confused but Bhagavan Dass suggested,
"Maybe he means the LSD." I asked and Maharajji nodded. The bottle of LSD was in the car and I was sent to fetch it.
When I returned I emptied the vial of pills into my hand.
In addition to the LSD there were a number of other pills for this and that--diarrhea, fever, a sleeping pill, and so forth. He asked about each of these. He asked if they gave powers. I didn't understand at the time and thought that by "powers" perhaps he meant physical strength. I said, "No." Later, of course, I came to understand that the word he had used, "siddhis," means psychic powers.
Then he held out his hand for the LSD. I put one pill on his palm.
Each of these pills was about three hundred micrograms of very pure LSD-
-a solid dose for an adult. He beckoned for more, so I put a second pill in his hand--six hundred micrograms. Again he beckoned and I added yet another, making the total dosage 900 micrograms--certainly not a dose for beginners. Then he threw all the pills into his mouth. My reaction was one of shock mixed with fascination of a social scientist eager to see what would happen. He allowed me to stay for an hour--
and nothing happened.
He just laughed at me.
The whole thing had happened very fast and unexpectedly. When I returned to the United States in 1968 I told many people about this acid feat. But there had remained in me a gnawing doubt that perhaps he had been putting me on and had thrown the pills over his shoulder or palmed them, because I hadn't actually seen them go into his mouth and had thrown the pills over his shoulder or palmed them, because I hadn't actually seen them go into his mouth."
More to be found at: http://www.miqel.com/entheogens/neem-ka ... lpert.html
If you think that anyone could pull over something on Neem Karoli Baba, like slipping him acid unbeknownst to him I must humbly disagree.
"Although my view is higher than the sky, My respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour."