As they have in Israel as well. And in East Germany, on the border they used bullets. But in East Germany in the cities they did also use tear gas during demonstrations in the 80's. And this is my reference when I ask why the US police are behaving like the East German police.Food_Eatah wrote:In Syria they used tanks homes...
kirtu wrote: And this is my reference when I ask why the US police are behaving like the East German police.
Kirt
Did you expect something more? They are mercenaries for hire: after witnessing their conduct both during the Anti-Globalization movement, the 2000 conventions, the anti-war marches and now even more so during the various country-wide Occupations-- it is clear that they are not on the side of the law, they are on the side of the same elite interests that control or infiltrate our government. The framework of this newest protest makes them so on edge because it is so close to the truth, pointing out the grotesque level of inequality our world has descended to -- the 1% is actually more like the .01% as many have been pointing out lately. I know there are many officers who are not happy about what they are ordered to do, but they are too scared not to obey.kirtu wrote: And this is my reference when I ask why the US police are behaving like the East German police.
Kirt
At least they're not being shot in massacres like in 1950s East Germany.kirtu wrote:As they have in Israel as well. And in East Germany, on the border they used bullets. But in East Germany in the cities they did also use tear gas during demonstrations in the 80's. And this is my reference when I ask why the US police are behaving like the East German police.Food_Eatah wrote:In Syria they used tanks homes...
Kirt
There are several reasons I support the Occupy Wall Street movement. At one level, I see it as expressing a justifiable protest, long overdue, against the hijacking of the country's economy by the financial and corporate elite, who enhance their wealth to the detriment of the overwhelming majority of ordinary people. We have too many people unemployed and under-employed; too many without homes or adequate nutrition; too many students burdened with heavy debts; too many people without health insurance or access to affordable health care. Over the past three decades, the gap in wealth between the top one percent and everyone else has expanded almost tenfold. The wealthy have grown richer by resorting to unscrupulous financial practices, forcing the government to protect them from collapse and pushing too many people into poverty and debt. The corporate and financial elite manipulate politicians to their advantage. Thus government policies respond, not to the needs of people, but to the appetites of the corporate elite. This is an affront to economic and social justice and a threat to the viability of democracy, which is now just a pale shadow of a government truly “of, by, and for the people.”
However, I don't look at OWS movement solely in terms of its economic and political aspirations. At another level, I see OWS as a moral and even spiritual movement that is raising vital questions: "What ethical platform does this country stand on?" and "What kind of world do we want to create?" There are two fundamentally opposed ways of answering these questions. One sees our primary obligation to be the pursuit of self-interest. This position endorses competition as the driving force of progress and takes dominance over others as the mark of success. It treats people as disposable commodities, to be used for what they can yield and then discarded as “redundant.”
The other position sees our primary moral obligation to be to create a society—a nation and a planetary community—that gives everyone a fair opportunity to flourish and ensures that no one is left without support. From this perspective, government must provide a safety net that protects people from the pitfalls of poverty and personal calamity. From this perspective, supreme moral value is ascribed to care and compassion. Our social and political institutions must ensure that everyone enjoys an adequate standard of living, and has access to health care, education, and a clean environment.
I consider it a strength of the OWS movement that it hasn't reduced its agenda to a specific set of demands. Perhaps it is a weakness of the movement that it has focused primarily on economic injustice and has not, as yet, stressed other deformities in our social and ethical system. At times the movement seems inchoate, but I believe it is struggling to give voice to our need to rise to a new stage of consciousness from which we see that, as a species and as a global community, we must thrive together in unity, by giving primacy to love, care, generosity, and compassion.
—Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi
ronnewmexico wrote: I am trying to time gold on this....till the bond announcement(if they announce it at all) gold should depreciate. Once done... gold should appreciate and regain its upward trajectory. Playing the news first then the thing. Another gamble
Not sure if it's an urban myth, but off the top of my head I thought that when China executes a prisoner, they send the bill for the cost of the bullet to the living family members.catmoon wrote:Holy smokes. In China, sure, they may send you off for a little "re-education" but at least the Chinese don't make you PAY for it.
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