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Re: Mala Etiquette

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:46 pm

If really Gurú Padmasambhava gave directions on mala characteristics, then it is important.

Is the posted info reliable?
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Re: Mala Etiquette

Post by Simon E. » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:11 pm

javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:46 pm
If really Gurú Padmasambhava gave directions on mala characteristics, then it is important

Is the posted info reliable?
Before answering that we would have to clarify the historicity of Padmasambhava.
Back to fishin' folks... :namaste:

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Re: Mala Etiquette

Post by Nyedrag Yeshe » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:22 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:11 pm
javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:46 pm
If really Gurú Padmasambhava gave directions on mala characteristics, then it is important

Is the posted info reliable?
Before answering that we would have to clarify the historicity of Padmasambhava.
Irrelevant! :thinking:
What about the authenticity of Mahayana Sutras or the historicity of Shakyamuni? Can we apply the same logic here in order to debase overall Mahayana? Slandering Dzogchen and Vajrayana won't be of any help or relevance here!
“Whatever has to happen, let it happen!”
“Whatever the situation is, it’s fine!”
“I really don’t need anything!
~Tsangpa Gyare Yeshe Dorje (1161-1211)
ओं पद्मोष्णीष विमले हूँ फट । ओं हनुफशभरहृदय स्वाहा॥
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔ ཀརྨ་པ་མཁྱེན་ནོ།

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Re: Mala Etiquette

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:41 pm

Nyedrag Yeshe wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:22 pm
Simon E. wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:11 pm
javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:46 pm
If really Gurú Padmasambhava gave directions on mala characteristics, then it is important

Is the posted info reliable?
Before answering that we would have to clarify the historicity of Padmasambhava.
Irrelevant! :thinking:
What about the authenticity of Mahayana Sutras or the historicity of Shakyamuni? Can we apply the same logic here in order to debase overall Mahayana? Slandering Dzogchen and Vajrayana won't be of any help or relevance here!
just want to know where to find it's source, for further study. I would love to make perfect ritual instruments one day. 🙏
what are you doing

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Re: Mala Etiquette

Post by Mantrik » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:48 am

javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:46 pm
If really Gurú Padmasambhava gave directions on mala characteristics, then it is important.

Is the posted info reliable?
The info I posted came from Gyatrul Rinpoche ( "The Generation Stage in Buddhist Tantra'') but I'm afraid I don't know the exact source the Lama was quoting.
Malcolm alluded to the Tantras containing some guidance, in another thread. Could you give us any links to sources please, Malcolm, about choosing and using a mala?
http://www.khyung.com

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Thanno Garuda Prachodayath

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Re: Mala Etiquette

Post by Nyedrag Yeshe » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:36 pm

javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:41 pm
Nyedrag Yeshe wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:22 pm
Simon E. wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:11 pm


Before answering that we would have to clarify the historicity of Padmasambhava.
Irrelevant! :thinking:
What about the authenticity of Mahayana Sutras or the historicity of Shakyamuni? Can we apply the same logic here in order to debase overall Mahayana? Slandering Dzogchen and Vajrayana won't be of any help or relevance here!
just want to know where to find it's source, for further study. I would love to make perfect ritual instruments one day. 🙏
Sorry Javier, this was intended for Simon, not you! But shouldn't you ask your teacher(s) before doing this? If you are following the thread, you can sense that improper ritual objects may create problems in your practice! I wish you all success by the way!
“Whatever has to happen, let it happen!”
“Whatever the situation is, it’s fine!”
“I really don’t need anything!
~Tsangpa Gyare Yeshe Dorje (1161-1211)
ओं पद्मोष्णीष विमले हूँ फट । ओं हनुफशभरहृदय स्वाहा॥
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔ ཀརྨ་པ་མཁྱེན་ནོ།

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Re: Mala Etiquette

Post by Malcolm » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:44 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:48 am
javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:46 pm
If really Gurú Padmasambhava gave directions on mala characteristics, then it is important.

Is the posted info reliable?
The info I posted came from Gyatrul Rinpoche ( "The Generation Stage in Buddhist Tantra'') but I'm afraid I don't know the exact source the Lama was quoting.
Malcolm alluded to the Tantras containing some guidance, in another thread. Could you give us any links to sources please, Malcolm, about choosing and using a mala?
The tantras say a bodhiseed māla is the best.
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Mala Etiquette

Post by Nyedrag Yeshe » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:45 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:44 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:48 am
javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:46 pm
If really Gurú Padmasambhava gave directions on mala characteristics, then it is important.

Is the posted info reliable?
The info I posted came from Gyatrul Rinpoche ( "The Generation Stage in Buddhist Tantra'') but I'm afraid I don't know the exact source the Lama was quoting.
Malcolm alluded to the Tantras containing some guidance, in another thread. Could you give us any links to sources please, Malcolm, about choosing and using a mala?
The tantras say a bodhiseed māla is the best.
Can you please point out which Tantra Gyatrul Rinpoche is quoting here?
“Whatever has to happen, let it happen!”
“Whatever the situation is, it’s fine!”
“I really don’t need anything!
~Tsangpa Gyare Yeshe Dorje (1161-1211)
ओं पद्मोष्णीष विमले हूँ फट । ओं हनुफशभरहृदय स्वाहा॥
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔ ཀརྨ་པ་མཁྱེན་ནོ།

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Re: Mala Etiquette

Post by Mantrik » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:23 am

Malcolm wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:44 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:48 am
javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:46 pm
If really Gurú Padmasambhava gave directions on mala characteristics, then it is important.

Is the posted info reliable?
The info I posted came from Gyatrul Rinpoche ( "The Generation Stage in Buddhist Tantra'') but I'm afraid I don't know the exact source the Lama was quoting.
Malcolm alluded to the Tantras containing some guidance, in another thread. Could you give us any links to sources please, Malcolm, about choosing and using a mala?
The tantras say a bodhiseed māla is the best.
Yes, I quoted you as having said that but wondered which tantras were your source.
http://www.khyung.com

Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath

Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)

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